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True Routine of the Porn addict.

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by En?gmatic, May 25, 2023.

  1. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    This is how it works if you let it continue to dominate your life. You will be a porn addict, a videogames addict and a meme addict. The risk is to be an eternal Hikkikomori that never leave his house. It's a great way to atomize people and left them alone in their dark room. You will reach a point of stagnation, and that will be the moment you will have to retake your life back, because if you don't experiment the abyss, you will never be able to go up. Netflix, videogames, Memes and Porn all works to maintain you slave. Remember, this is just my experience, I've played almost for 20 years since I'm 25 and started really soon, maybe if you started late in your life will be a completly different thing.

    Let me know your opinion and experience.

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    I've stop playing videogames 33 days ago, but I was bored long before. I feel like I had a Burnout with games, since they gave me headchace and nausea, it does not matter what videogame it is. I started playing videogames at 4-5 years old, I don't remember, games were funny but now they are just a tool for waste our time and money and isolate ourself from others and I'm not going to allow it anymore, the only game that does not make me get headchace is Mahjong. Feel free to play videogames it btw, I'm not your God.

    I feel like this is a triad for the porn addict, even if memes could be a powerfull tool if you are able to use it, for explain serious things I mean. I stolen the meme, but I had to completly change it because it could result triggering to people and I don't want to be banned.

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    I've already explained my opinion about it, let me copy paste my last messages:

    Why videogames are bad for us? The reason is that we use it as a window to escape reality. You just create your own alter ego, make it as similar as you can to yourself, maybe he has muscle and he looks more good looking, but you do it because you feel a loser in real life, and you don't want to be a loser so you become a hero inside the game, where every NPC ask for your help and you defeat the bad guys...ecc...this is how it works. You don't need social relationships because you play roleplaying games where you act as the protagonist of that universe, you get your decision, you choose to be ''good'' or ''bad'' toward NPC and obtain the results you wants.
    Same for pornography, you watch porn and you don't need a real girlfriend. You use porn because it just hide your necessity of having a girlfriend. So, porn like videogames just put a veil, and you are locked in your dark room, masturbate and play videogames, unlock shit like virtual dress, virtual money, virtual weapons, things that you can easly lose if someone break the electricity or the internet connection. I usually said ''I don't need a gf, I feel like I'm asexual and don't care'', the truth was that I was a porn addict that used porn to compensate that. Even if now I don't care that much about getting a gf (would be great, but now have other focus), I used porn because It plugged the leak..but that was all fake! And when I've discovered about porn addiction in late 2019 I immediatly noticed it, because after the first weeks of NoFap I started to feel so depressed, becuase I had deprived myself with that ''shield'' that protected me from social needs. And there is a reason why I've stop being an atheist when I lefted porn for the first time. My Spirit just needed to feed itself with knowledge, wisdom, ethic, philosophy (love for wisdom, attempt to re-get the ancient wisdom), ecc...porn and videogames act to suppress your consciousness, as I said in the post #39.

    And these two things are melting togheter (porn and videogames). Just watch now videogames gave you the option to get a relationship, and even have sex with them, your pixel character have sex with other pixel character that are just scripted and execute action without their own will, while you are a loser in your dark room, atomized from society, in your own fake universe that just suck your time, without consciounsess, critical thinking, because it is slumbered by that fake videogames-pornographic world. (https://www.inverse.com/gaming/starfield-jetpack-sex). You build your life inside a computer, you are the most legendary person inside that game, while outside of it you are a miserable, because you don't know anyone. The result will be yourself being alone in your 40-50, while many of your friends will be succesful (you need to be succesful at your own way, you don't need to follow the ''standards'' of society), and others will be nerds like you. So yes, I belive that these are experimental tools that are used against us, and if this is an experiment, it will become more sophisticated with time.

    (https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/en-gma-journal.340162/page-3#post-3578959)

    Hello everyone,

    Had this issue, now I'm in Nogaming maybe forever. The problem is that both gaming and porn make you secrete an innatural ammount of dopamine (that you would never get in nature). For me playing games is like edging, then after a game session I immediatly go to porn. I played strategy games and they gave you a high amount of dopamine, I never was able to stop after 5-6-7 hours of gaming (and seeing other people statistic on these kind of game, these are rookie numbers).

    Now I rate stay focused in reality, I don't want to escape in another dimension because I need to forget about my life. It's like a nerd that play videogames because in real life he's a loser so he move in another reality so he can be a winner, but that's a fake world that bring nowhere and left you as a 30-40 years old loser with no social relationship and still live in your mom house basement. And, maybe you are at work and when you finish it the only thing you think about is turn on your computer and play...I've did it for years, and precluded the chance of get relationship, friends, ecc...what did I obtained? Nothing, since all these saves are gone, every trophy wasn't worth it. It remain just a passive nerd pornaddict. Did you think to games when you are at work? And now these games like gaas, but even other typologies of gaming try to make you hooked on it...it's not anymore a game, it's a work, so it lose to be funny. You need to spend your entire day complete missions, get new items, ecc....no thanks.

    I agree with the other guy, sexualized characters have been pushed for long, and everytime as a hero inside a videogame, I imagine to fuck that pixel woman as my character.

    Of course is not true for everyone, I talk as a guy that played games since I was 4-5 years old and now I am 25, with many project that have nothing to do with games. Feel like I've raped my brain with videogames so much. Videogames are so addictive nowadays, watch with suspect the new games.

    I read only books now, I have disney+ but is so boring and that netflix series style does not work with me, I never get hook in a tv show since they are boring for me. I usually watch the same movies always, barely watch something new, mostly of the new movies are trash. Books at least make you active, Tv shows, gaming, porn, ecc..are passive. Other things I've replace these with is cycling, and have a few projects on with this.
    One of the problem with us ''longtime nerds'' is that we are also virgin (mostly of us), this is a great problem for the modern generation but just don't be sad about it, it's a modern day idea that you should lose virginity at 12/13/14 years old, isn't true. My life objective now are stay away from pornography, games and develop my real passions. If I will have the chance to love someone, I'll do, but I'm not a darwinist so I don't belive that the life-objective is reproduction.

    Of course what I've write are personal experience, but I feel like that Porn-Games correlation is true, and very dangerous, only few choosed one can play games with moderation, without getting these effects. So, do what you want with your life, de gustibus.

    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/gaming-and-fapping.348610/#post-3587434

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  2. onceaking

    onceaking Fapstronaut

    It might be the routine of some but not all.

    I use Misplay and play a game for about 5 minutes a day when I'm taking a break from work or studying but it's no addiction. I avoid games that can be really energy zapping like FIFA or NBA.

    As for memes, I don't care for them really. I think most of them are dumb and silly. You're better off reading a book or reading a longform article.
     
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  3. I don’t think video games are inherently bad; however, I do think there are some that are unhealthy. Being my age I’ve seen games evolve into different things to now being open world ones or ones that deal with micro transaction and daily goals. Many of these games have gone from fun recreation to making the game a chore. Since the advent of micro transactions the games now have two methods where you can either pay for more fun or grind as they call it. If your game requires either, it’s unhealthy.

    As for memes I sometimes enjoy them while other times I find them annoying. They’re a form of entertainment which should also be regulated.
     
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  4. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    Yep, but I think that mostly of the porn addicts are also gamers. I called ''The Rule of the Three'', Porn Addict, Gaming Addict, Meme Addict.
     
  5. Onceagain2.0

    Onceagain2.0 Fapstronaut

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    cant say ive ever made a meme in my life , video games i have no patience for anymore besides a quick run around in gtav or the occasional survival game where i can be creative in building or some sort of sniper games or rally game like wrc10 . all other games AAA games with a story arch i just can be bothered to invest time and energy into.
    my main addiction is porn but its not an addiction its an outlet.

    granted i can appreciate how some people become hikiki but i dont think its as a phenomenon as you would believe.

    i live in an apartment building there is a couple beside with a baby and a woman on the other side. nobody ever leaves the apartment i don't think anybody works i can hear anytime people leave because you can always hear the front doors opening and closing . i am currently not in work although im looking to try and find aome work from home im currently making £800 from social security and any prescriptions or medical is paid so not exactly in the worst situation i could be in . but i will eventually find something to keep me ticking over at home. the days of running around like a madman are over . but yeah unless you are working , you have a family life a gf outside the home , you have a social life . you are basically a hikikimourri besides going to the shop or going for a walk
     
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  6. LostSon41

    LostSon41 Fapstronaut

    Glad you brought up memes. I used to surf memes for hours at a time. I would close the apps of Instagram and Reddit only to immediately get back on. Your brain gets accustomed to being controlled by the hunger for laughter. The urge to look at something funny, play something fun, and fap all complement each other. They all promote a lazy life. Each category feeds off the next. So I’m betting people who play the most video games and look at the most memes struggle the most to overcome porn. And now that I think about it, the second I stopped playing Xbox last semester of school, I also was able to achieve my highest NoFap streak. And 2 weeks after playing video games for the first time in 6 months, I relapsed. Memes have been off the table for me for a while. I think if you can restrict at least 2 of the categories from your life you will be happy. I still play video games now but I’ve been alright because I haven’t seen porn in over a week and haven’t browsed memes at all this year
     
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  7. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    Yep mine was a paradox, Since this one is a meme too. But memes in generals seem like they are a weapon to make people stupid, your entire consciousness would actually act like everything is a meme, without use our real intellect. Isn’t easy to explain this. We should limit memes as well.
     
  8. I feel like videogames have the potential to be addictive if you let them but they are also easier to just not play, compared to something like PMO. I used to play online shooters a lot as a teenager/younger adult and would get so invested, so insanely angry at them that I wouldn't be shocked if I've shortened my lifespan my a year or two from the accumulated stress. You haven't seen gamer rage until you've seen me rage. But then one day I simply decided I was done and I quit cold turkey pretty easily. I went back a few times just to see if I was capable of playing without stress and when I wasn't I'd quit after a match. I've been "clean" for years now. I still play offline games and I find they rarely make me as angry.
     
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  9. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    I think a radical cut is necessary, just like for porn...I strongly belive that if you want to masturbate without porn you need to be aware that it could trigger the porn addict mechanism, so for me is necessary a long abstinence from orgasm before I could actually masturbate without porn. Same for game, necessary a long detox, and even if I could return to gaming I should limit it like at 1-1:30 hour every 2-3 days. It should not be a work, like I need to complete the quest and then I quit the game, no, after you pass 1:30 you close the game....One of the many problem of gaming is that It become a second work, you go home and you play.
    Btw genuinely the only game I'm going to replay in 10 years is Fallout TTW lol, it's probably the most beautiful virtual thing ever made.
     
  10. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    I’m going to add more stuff here, relations between Porn and Videogames and some personal toughts. Without Games and Porn I was able to do it normally without issues, then I got the chance to play videogames again (I know Is a Hypocrite act from me after what I said) and I could just say is true: Videogames for me and Pornography are extremly related. As I uninstalled again videogames My urges are decreased like 95%. I’ll add stuff soon.

    I know isn’t real for everyone, but for me is a great issue and invite other to try quitting games for a while, and see if it is part of the problem, especially if you are a computer gamer.
     
  11. For me it's pretty much the opposite. Last night I almost relapsed but a quick hour on a game dispelled the urges and I was able to get on with my night worry free. For me some videogames are engaging but easy to put down most of the time, so they are perfect for fighting urges. I'd rather look back on a day and think to myself "I played games too much today" instead of "I relapsed today." In fact after last night I've decided to make any time I spend gaming as a means to distract from urges exempt from my "2 hours a day gaming" rule I set for myself. The fact I was able to basically cut the time I spent gaming per day in half with little effort in a week, while struggling to quit PMO in more than 5 years of trying, says it all to me. I'm absolutely addicted to porn. I'm not addicted to videogames. At most I spend too much time playing specific games. I can live with that.
     
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