tremendous relapse after 11 days

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Breaking Fap, May 20, 2014.

  1. Breaking Fap

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    Hello. This was my first relapse since beginning NoFap.
    I did not wait for it, but today it was really hot weather in germany,
    therefore a lot of short skirt triggers.

    It was really a inner fight between free will and a trigger-sensitive appetite.

    There was a revealingly dressed girl in front of the window of the room in which I practice, waiting for the bus. I could resist in the beginning. There was no urge coming up.
    Then I tried to intentionally let that urge come up, to see if there is an urge.
    I didnt expected that to be so intense. This brought me a few times to the edge,
    and I screamed STOP! before it came to the end.
    Then I escaped from that room, to wait for the bus to get that girl out of my sight.

    After 15 minutes I came back to start practicing.
    But there was the same girl, crying to her mobile phone,
    because she did not know, which bus she has to take, or something like that.
    Almost instantaneously an idea came to my mind. Why not offering her a ride?
    On this way I could bring me closer to her to eventually get more than just a sight.
    I immediately had that plan, I don't remember when I figured it out, it was already there.

    I was just to exit the building, when I realized, that she went on by foot, to the next train station I think. This was cut-close. But I was fantasising for a while about that.
    Therefore I did some yoga poses afterwards. My hands and feet became very cold like dead.

    After 15 minutes there was still another girl, and I could not resist anymore.
    I tried to stay aware, but I could not keep it up.
    This time I tried to make her see me, mastrubating to her.
    This broke my neck.

    Its true that I am a bit frustrated, also about the extremness.
    But it was me who preached, that behind every relapse there is a message.

    Almost everything I learned,... I just could not access it. This is discouraging.

    I thought I was ready for a challange... But the urge was cleverly hiding.
    I stood there to watch, and could not escape instantaneously, in fact I was not able to make that decision, but I felt the conflict.
    Now I know it, and write it down. Urge is hiding dexterously.

    Now, my hands are still dead cold. This is maybe because I am desperately trying to find the meaning of that relapse.

    I got to be honest to myself: The only reason I screamed STOP! (see above)
    I remember, was the fact that I did not want to ruin my nice green bar underneath. I forgot all other reasons, which originally made me begin nofap, and which make me write that stuff down right now.
    So the relapse came just in time.


    EDIT:

    seriously I dont want that." Go to gym, have a hobby, go out with friends..."
    Forget that. sophisticated acivities are not a reason, to except an addiction.

    EDIT:

    I discharged again, after writing this. This time I could only step back for a short time.
     
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  2. Breaking Fap

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  3. Sham

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    Playing devil's advocate with yourself is the worst. I don't know how many times I've failed because I thought I was testing myself. I know I cant offer too much advice as I'm on one of my longest PMO frees in the last 5 years and it's only 19days but I do feel a lot better about it this time with reduced urges.

    My advice would be:
    1) Don't test yourself. You will always fail lol.
    Sounds harsh but in reality if you are actually testing you will keep pushing it further until your hand is on your junk and at that point there really isn't any coming back. (See what i did there so punny)

    2) Try to not even think about sex/ the sexy ladies/ anything that gives you a jolt of dopamine. I assume it would speed your rewire. I believe these two bits of advice have really helped me get to my best 19days ever. Also read this article the first two paragraphs in italics show the 2 opinions on whether fantasising is all right or not: http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/what-about-fantasizing-during-reboot

    3) Get an accountability partner. I talk with mine everyday. I let him know if I was feeling really horny that day or if I was struggling with erections. Just be real open, you'll both be suffering from the same problem and looking to quit. My buddy failed on day 13 but he learned from it and is starting again. I hope you can do the same.
     
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  4. Finalfight123

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    Honestly dude realize its a trigger. And right away distract yourself its easier than you think. The only thing is it seems like you were chasing after her so that doesn't seem safe to me. But realize that this a challenge to you and that you want to beat it and that whatever emotion your getting its your brain trying to trick you its not something you need but want.

    Enough of that lets look at what you did right you tried to get rid of the sight and memory. And you made it to day 11 so pat yourself on the back that in of itself is an incredible first step. Theres more to be had so pick yourself up try again and this time beat 11 days because you can. Good luck man you got this.
     
  5. madmax1

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    Could you clarify? Did she see you masturbating? If so, you could easily end up behind bars or have your video all over the web.
     
  6. Shai_Halud

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    this, 100% this.

    This is my fear for this streak, as i will go home for the first time in many months and sex with the wife is inevitable. I'm hoping the dopamine rush from that will separate in my head from the old porn induced ones.

    I need to do this. I was hoping to get one close to my age (40's). Any advice?
     
  7. Breaking Fap

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    Thank you that you do care.

    @Abel
    I know that you don't lecture anyone, because you know, that its not helpful.
    For the future I am going to do regular meditation on urges. I think that urge, or horniness is nothing more than an emotion, like anger. I can not completely erase all triggers, because it's summer in germany, and you know. The only thing I did not yet try is the following:

    Treating the emotion called horniness the way an emotion should be treated.
    If there is a trigger, it will likely bring the horniness up.

    1.If I manage to escape the trigger, which is possible, on condition that I made preparations before, then there will probably be still an echo of uncovered horniness afterwards. There will be fantasies, that keep up that horniness, to drive me back to the trigger. But since I escaped the trigger, there is no return anymore,...

    2. therefore I get the chance to turn to these fantasies. The next step is to isolate the horniness from the imagninary, letting the fantaties pass by, but holding the emotion.

    3. Then feeling the emotion itself, without any connections to fantasies. Just pure horniness, not asking where it comes from, not asking why it's there, just feeling it. The difficulty here is to keep it isolated from the associations.

    I already tried it today. This isolation is actually possible. At least it is simpler than dealing with the emotion fear.
    This does not only apply to horniness, its really refered to emotions. Most of the time we revert the cause-effect-relation and don't realize that an emotion is not caused or put into our bodies by external resources, but we are the creators. Therefore we have to treat them isolated.

    What do you say?

    And I have a second question:

    Did you experience, that after a relative long abstinence, a mastrubation burst causes a short performance increase, at least for that day, and then a performance decrease for the rest of the time?
    Because right after that sperm burst yesterday I had music class, and I was better, than I experienced while practicing the days before. My hands warm, better memory access, not too tired, less body tension, especially left shoulder.

    Today: No focus, procrastination, etc... (at least I was able to apply the new technique I described above)
     
  8. LustFREE

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    I'm glad that you somehow caught yourself here!! This is also a learning step in withdrawal in that the chaser effect hits you with a vengance here. You can and MUST stop the behavior. This is also why the 30, 60, 90 day challenge needs to be taken as a LIFE CHANGE. You need to find every way possible to replace the old BAD habits with NEW empowering/ more positive habits.