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Too old for a new start. Loneliness is crashing me...

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Deleted Account, May 31, 2021.

  1. Almost 60.
    Depressed for a very long time.
    Three years ago I lost my father.
    Two years ago I lost my mother for whom I gave up working in 2007 to care for, after a TBI.
    Last year I lost my only "child"... a 15 year-old border collie named Lucy.
    Three months ago my wife of 13 years decided she couldn't cope with my depression any more and left with an "I'm so sorry"...
    What's left of my life is an one bedroom apartment full of memories of everyone I lost.
    Introvert and anti-social, I'm not in the mood to meet anybody. I cannot think of anybody who gives a shit.
    The thought that this will be my life until the moment I meet my mother and Lucy again scares me so much. Too much of a coward to kill myself.
    I've heard all sorts of pep-talks ... "You have to do this or that...". The only thing that echoes at the back of my mind is... "I don't really care about how you feel..."

    If it sounds like a whine of a person feeling pity for himself it's because this is what it is.
    And I'm not sure I'm entitled to any attention, since I don't follow prescriptions. I spent my whole life looking for a person who really cared. Too late to change...
     
  2. Welcome, and I'm sorry to hear about the losses you've had in recent years, and I'm sure this past year only adds to the difficulty.

    You definitely have a point about the pep talks, this is after all a forum with a large number of young people. Guys in their 20s are going to have a generally different outlook in life and not as much perspective. (I'm about 10 years younger than you)

    For those of us who are introverted, a pet can certainly make all the difference. Maybe when you're ready you can adopt another pet.

    I think especially given the past 15 or so months a lot of people not only may not normally care before, but they may be too anxious and distracted to remember to care now. There are people giving away things like putting out a bag of groceries where I live but I think the mental health toll has been enormous. The thing is, a lot of people may not know what it is to be depressed so it's new to them, and they in turn are not in a great position to help and show they care for people even if somewhere deep down they may.

    In a perfect world I'd like to see people pay attention by default because there are always reasons, and we won't know what those are until we notice. Life isn't about prescriptions, we need to take note and not only deal with people in terms of a formula.
     
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  3. brassknucks

    brassknucks Fapstronaut

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    You can rebuild again. Take things one day at a time.
     
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  4. brassknucks

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    You're not the first guy nor the last guy that's ever been "zero'd out", as Rollo Tomassi puts it. You've still got a potential good number of years left of your life. Make the most of it. Some people don't get that opportunity.
     
  5. Thank you.

    At least you wasted some of your time to respond to my whining. That means a lot.
    I don't think I will ever be ready to adopt a new pet. I still go around with her leash in my pocket. We NEVER left Lucy home alone (except when I had to be in the hospital for a heart attack) and I still don't want to.

    I didn't know what the site (NoFap) was all about so I had no idea that it's mostly young people. I googled "Loneliness forum" and I selected one randomly. I guess I don't belong here...

    You are right about the mental/emotional overloading because of the pandemic. The need to survive made people more egocentric. The word "empathy" is no longer part of life...

    In a perfect world... I'm not sure if you can understand: I feel that I'm still a 10 year-old caring for everybody and wishing others to care for me. I never grew up emotionally. A scared kid, unable to function in the world of grownups.

    Thank you again. Thank you so much. I haven't talked to anybody in days and your reply... a reply from a complete stranger has me sitting here crying like a baby...

    Thank you.
     
  6. Thank you for caring enough to reply.

    I reached a point that I'm unable to function. I'm like a homeless person but under a roof. In an apartment that hasn't been cleaned for months. I became a robot doing things just because they need to be done, skipping whatever I can. I eat because if I don't, the pain from my stomach acid will torture me. I spent my whole life caring for everybody's problems. Now... now I just need someone to take me by the hand and walk me out of this situation.

    Rebuilding... At my age there's no rebuilding... There's only waiting for the end...
     
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  7. Kung_fu_panda_

    Kung_fu_panda_ Fapstronaut

    I'm so sorry to hear that ...
     
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  8. There's a lot of talk in terms of adults acting like children, in the addiction recovery world there's a fellowship called Adult Children of Alcoholics and sometimes people there identify themselves as "adult child" instead of addict - I don't entirely agree with this either. The reality is while some people may in fact be developmentally delayed in some ways, even neurologically whether from addiction, trauma, dysfunction or some combination of that I think there needs to be a differentiation between what we need to function in society, to meet expectations vs. developing in a relatively unique way. I think we can acknowledge we have some "things to work on" without referring to it in sort of a pathologized way.

    And anyway, I don't know that not caring for people should be an "adult" trait even if it is common in the modern world. We don't want to be codependent or anything but basic things like empathy is different.
     
  9. Apart from everything else I live with half a heart (since 2011) because of a heart attack. I'm not sure I agree with you about the "potential good number of years", especially when the symptoms for an oncoming new attack have started (again) and I neglect to do anything about it.
     
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  10. My gratitude...
    It is some sort of healing to hear strangers feel sorry for me. My whole life I've been an empath beyond any logic... Now, without a shred of dignity or self respect left, I'm asking for other people's compassion...

    Thank you for your kindness.
     
  11. I think I am beginning to understand why religion exists. I am 37 and starting a new phase of my life, coming to terms with the fact that I made poor choices with both women and career earlier on. I can’t imagine seeing those mistakes compounded until I was 60. Your life experience has value. There are people who can learn from you and be better because of you, both on this board and out in the world. I hope you find them.
     
  12. You have nailed it in so many different ways!

    Yes, (my apologies to believers) religion exists because at some point in one's life one finds oneself without anything to hang onto. A free-fall with a bitter ending!

    You are 37. Please, PLEASE live every day of your life to the fullest and think VERY WELL before making any decisions. At the age of 10, 20, 30... even at 50, I thought I had time to re-start my life. To have new dreams, new hopes, new beginnings.

    Now... a person of 60 with no partner, no job, no children and only loss and mistakes being the past I feel like a death row inmate. Waiting for the end, wishing that it's not painful or degrading. I used to say to my wife (before she left) that I love video games because when you mess up, you can always restart from the beginning, doing it better, building on the experience of the last run. Unfortunately life is not a video game. There's only ONE run. And when you lose it is game over for good!

    Thank you for your insight. The problem is not finding the people who can learn from my bitter experience. The problem is they (we) don't believe my words of now because they (we) feel invincible when they (we) are young.
     
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  13. BigCatTunski

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    Loneliness is tough. I’ve been going through this feeling for a minute now. Can’t even cry about it cuz I know this is just how life is sometimes. I’m not sure if this will help any, but you really must take it upon yourself to be happy with yourself. Travel, meet new people, do things you enjoy. It may be tough, but understand it’s okay to not be okay. But you gotta pull yourself up and love yourself. It’s a tough road, but nothing good comes easy.

    stay strong. We’re here with you.
     
  14. I can accept that you have no job, no children, and no partner. I know how devastating that triple whammy can be. I don’t accept that it’s “only loss and mistakes” that you have to share. I suspect you are the sort of person that knows how to recover from failure and make the most out of his circumstances. Also, you are talking to someone who believes in rebirth (practicing Buddhist). You don’t get to save and restart that’s true, but from my point of view death is just the end of one campaign and the beginning of another. You can still finish this one strong and start the next one off right.

    Feel free to DM me if you need to take the edge off of the loneliness while you figure things out. It’ll certainly help take the edge off of mine.
     
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  15. ELITE2BE

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    Deeply sorry for your loss. My sincere condolences. Well my good brother, first off and before anything, rest assured that, although this is a forum designated for porn addicts, I promise you will still find people here amongst us who genuinely care for your well-being and would love to see you happy. You can take me for one!

    Please don’t dismiss what I say as generic or cliché. IT IS NEVER TOO LATE! I repeat, IT IS NEVER TOO LATE!!
    Your life didn’t go to waste, loving and caring for those we value is the pinnacle of charity and self-transcendence. Howbeit, this doesn’t mean that once those dear individuals are chosen by God to depart, we should lose our main purpose, fumbling about and despairing. Life does NOT end or stop for the loss of anybody. It moves on, and so should we.

    First thing’s first, if you are not a believer in GOD, I urge you to look into this. I am saying this because if it wasn’t for GOD almighty, I a probably wouldn’t have been alive today. He is the light in my life, and my humble successes are all attributed to him. I merely acted on his guidances. If you are, however, a believer, make sure to give GOD a bigger role in all this. Remember that as long as GOD is with you, you don’t need anybody to be happy. Make him involved more with you and I promise things will get better. (If you need help and guidance with this please do not hesitate to direct message me on here)

    Next would be to overcome any disappointments and shortcomings associated with your old self, before this so-called rebirth or new life. Don’t consider it a new chapter. Take it as a new book all together, which revolves around making your aspirations a reality.

    Also, I take it that you don’t have any issues associated with porn and masterbation given that you said you are probably in the wrong place. If you do however have an issue with the aforementioned, you are actually in the best place on the whole internet to tackle and overcome said issue.

    Finally, plant the seed of
    RIGHTEOUSNESS and HOPE and BE HAPPY. I promise you, things will improve and glorious days are to come, just have faith and take care of yourself my dear brother.

    Never hesitate to contact me if you need help or guidance (with the little that I have). Stay safe. Much love. God bless your soul.
     
  16. Thank you for your kind words.

    I don't want to sound negative, but when I look at the past and see so many mistakes, so much loss, so much pain there's not much to love. There's not much to care for. I saw everyone I loved and cared for, go away. I went to bed one night with nobody to say "good night" to. What's left? Why should I love myself? My emotional, physical and financial states are in deep red, because of MY mistakes. The only thing remaining (I don't know for how long) is my mental state, which is playing its role accusing me, every moment of every day, for my mistakes and the wrong turns of the past.

    I read your words "It's a tough road, but nothing good comes easy" and all I can think of is "I have no courage, no will, no strength, no reason to do ANYTHING but wait for the end"...

    The only relief is some stranger saying to me "We're here with you"......................
     
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  17. Thank you for caring.

    I do not wish to offend you but I'm not a believer and I don't plan to become one. To do it now (that I'm in need) would be hypocrisy of the worst kind.
    I hope your God keeps your soul, heart and life full of happiness.
     
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  18. I used to be the person you suspect me to be. When I was younger. Kipling's "If" was part of my "religion". Unfortunately now I only see dead ends. How can somebody look for a job or a partner at my age and in my condition. Billionaires buy their trophy wives. I can't afford even a picture of one!

    Buddhism is also a good part of my "religion". But I don't believe in after life/rebirth or anything of the kind. My very down to earth logic says that once we die we are only good as worm food. (No cremation where I come from).

    Thanks for the DM invitation. It means a lot. The problem is that I'm in a constant struggle with myself that I should refrain from embarrassing myself any more (begging left and right for pity) and on the other hand feeling that loneliness has started affecting me in many ways. I may be 60 but I still need someone to tell me "good night" before going to bed and "good morning" when the new day comes. No matter how many people I meet and talk to during the day, at the end of it, when I close the door to my apartment it is an abyss of loneliness. That's when the thoughts begin: Is this how it's going to be to the end? And the answer is what scares me so....
     
  19. Kung_fu_panda_

    Kung_fu_panda_ Fapstronaut

    You have to become like master oogway.....
     
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  20. Love you kid!
    You made me smile!
    (and old fool me had to google "master oogway") ;)
     

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