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This is oddly... Is it considered relapse?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by saddist_adult, Mar 23, 2023.

  1. saddist_adult

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    I mean... I rarely notice this but when i get boner against my pants it feels good... Somehow i have always been like this plus humping on pillows etc... But it's not like I'm fucking the shit out of my pillow, i think I'm just hugging then make a slight humping with no intentions... It's just so natural that i didn't notice for so long... I always stick to the main things PMO but when it comes to these natural instincts, i find it hard to stop, I always seem to catch myself off guard... Is it a relapse?
     
  2. Now that you keep asking here if your behavior is regarded as being a relapse ... let me ask you:

    • What exactly is the behavior you do no longer want to engage in?
    • Did you set a goal timewise? Like no this or that for 1 week. Or a month?
    • Did you set yourself any goal?
    It all depends on your bottom-lines. On what you clearly defined for yourself you want or don't want.
    What is for sure you either work on relapse or on recovery. Let me give you an example: If you say you want to quit watching porn but then you start looking on Insta at pics of people wearing swim wear or underwear ads and get that certain rush then you are working on relapse. Cause this can lead to evenutally watching porn again. ------- Does that help you?
     
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    Actually my set of rule is avoided PMO only but bikini allow since I can't avoid entirely on internet. But other stuffs like getting boner rubbing against my pant but i never use my hand to actually rubbing on it purposely also the humping pillow it happens natural when i fantasizing about sex etc... it just that my brain didn't trigger me that's a relapse! ike literally don't care... But these days i have been worrying about relapse... If getting erection against my pant feels good and humping my pillow was considered relapse... Guess i have always been relapse, all those years doing nofap probably nothing... I'm thinking about giving up on nofap, part of me scared if I'm going full addicted head like i used to, my life would be completely ruined, i fought so much but nothing in returning... Guess it ended now...
     
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  4. You are 22 I see. Do you have a partner? If not it is normal that you get erections and feel horny. Stay away from P that is for sure. You don't need that and it messes you and your brain up. Maybe find a way with MO. Not fantasizing about porn related content, not searching for bikini pics. Before you go nuts think about making love with yourself.

    There are many ways to deal with it. For some total abstinence works. Others say once a week or once a month, or every second week ... I allow myself to MO only in a self-loving way.
    Do not try to climb Mount Everest without training. Take steps. You are your own Master. Find a way that suits you. But no P. No online stuff that is P related. Be gentle, loving, kind to yourself and your body.
     
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  5. saddist_adult

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    This open my mind up abit, i still couldn't get my head around the relapse things... Even after you explained i still had doubts whether you not giving exact answer. But yet i have full control over myself not to watching porn and masturbating... I won't let it happen!
     
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  6. No P. That would definitely be a relapse. No deliberate looking at P related content, that would be a relapse.
    If you are surfing and it happens that some ad pops up then click away, apply the 3-second-rule, look away, close browser.
     
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    No P that would definitely be a relapse? Wait what you mean no porn?
     
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    Ti be honest when it come to porn ads, i had done nofap long enough and my brain already developed avoidance, so i probably look away less than 1 second
     
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    For this site not watching porn ! You didn’t watch porn no relapse
     
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  11. Not watching P, not indulging in fantasies about P, no watching P related content, no looking for anything related to P, no deliberate thinking about P. And do not create any P ;)
     
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    Not thinking about porn is impossible! If it count as relapse I don't even know what else to do... I usually have sex fantasizing but it didn't urge me to masturbate or watch porn.
     
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  13. No no, thoughts they come, P related thoughts (may) arise. The question is what we do with these thoughts. Do we entertain them? Indulge in them? React on them and act out? Or we simply notice them and let them pass away. They come and go. We observe the process, not the content. The brain produces thoughts. We watch them arise and pass away. They arise to pass away. They come and go. And the less we react on them the weaker they get and the less they will show up. The brain works in networks. Cells that fire together wire together. The less important a network becomes (like the P network) the less it will show up. It's like you do no longer take that road but another. Over time the old road will vanish.

    Imagine a merry-go-round. It turns around as you push it, pull it, turn it, give it momentum. Once you stop it will still turn for a while until it comes to a stop. And each time you feed it again it will turn more again.
    Our job is to leave it alone and hang in there until it comes to a total stop.
    That means. The thoughts are not the problem. The problem starts when we believe those thoughts, give them momentum again, then it is as we're turning on that mental merry-go-round again.

    Thoughts arising are no relapse. Leave those thoughts alone. Become the Master of your Mind.
     
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    Thinking about it while withdrawal is not relapse , your ok hang in their ! Expecting to instantly think like mother Theresa when u first quit is setting u up for failure , and very unreasonable ! Your ok , it gets better
     
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