The Generation Gap

Hellfire 2,

I can't believe this, it is like trying to argue with a Climate Change sceptic/denier. You're just running around with a circular argument claiming to be a victim when you're a perpetrator. As WE ALL are who come to this site, including me.

You completely ignore the points I made (ie 1/2/3/4) and attribute to me what I quote from people WHO ARE MAKING PORNOGRAPHY (This is the 3rd time I have quoted this and you do not answer it)

One pornography industry veteran told Jensen:
I’d really like to show what I believe the men want to see: violence against women. I firmly believe that we serve a purpose by showing that. The most violence we can get is the cum shot in the face. Men get off behind this, because they get even with all the women they can’t have.

I agree there are some valid points. o.k. what are they ???

NB a lot of people who are addicted are from religious backgrounds. This is because they feel even greater moral and spiritual shame for what they have seen and get a bigger high because of it.

You give NO EVIDENCE at all for most of the claims you make, just big generalisations, where do you get this from ? show me the research.

Yes the people who reset are not happy when they go to watch porn. They go there to escape their realty. . life is too hard at that time.

How do you know this, OR is this just YOUR experience.

Explain to me why APCIA on the forum states he prefers female dominance in porn? ? That does not fit your code. Also how about the common disorder of men turning to transsexual porn who are heavily addicted? ? They are not woman. These people don't claim to be gay.

WHAT "CODE" IS THIS ? - don't have one sorry - My 60+ years EXPERIENCE of living on this planet, and travelling around it many times, tells me that this is a sick society, a male dominated sick society.

Again YOU'RE MAKING CLAIMS WITH ABSOLUTELY no evidence - the common disorder of men turning to transsexual porn who are heavily addicted - how on earth do you know this? As Gary Wilson states - "There are MANY men who "get off" on pictures of women in bikinis.

You're argument is the equivalent of saying anyone who uses marijuana becomes a heroin addict. Watching pornography DOES NOT COMPLETELY DESTROY THE ABILITY TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG.

Also disagree again on my "understanding" of the cognitive function of the brain - what YOU don't seem to understand is that the world doesn't just consist of Straight and gay, there are MANY in between sexual preferences which are NOT SICKNESS' but are chosen preferences which anyone has a right to pursue.
I replied to APCIA then as I reply to you now, perhaps you didn't read it, and perhaps you should look at the YouTube clip ;

There is a very interesting Gary Wilson YouTube clip "Adolescent Brain meets High Speed Internet Porn" in which he cites many examples of sexual preference being "altered" by internet porn addiction. An example was a young gay guy who through internet porn addiction "turned straight", and after "rebooting" reverted to his 'preferred' gay relationships.

I think he is suggesting that the deciding factor is the amount of Dopamine and Delta Fos B which regulates the "addictive" preferences and when "corrected" can produce changes.

HE MAKES NO CLAIMS WHATSOEVER ABOUT WHAT IS "NORMAL" SEXUAL PREFERENCE - AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU.

These are not people who are looking to degrade women.

Again, I cannot believe what I am reading here - this is just straight out DENIAL, have another look at the quote from the Pornography producer above - this is a guy WHO PRODUCES PORN MOVIES. He makes a living out of suckers like you and me and he knows what "THE MARKET" wants, or he wouldn't be doing it.

So you here are making people feel more shame and guilt who are already addicted and trying to break free. This will not help people addicted!

Do you still feel addicted ? like a victim ? Funny I don't feel like I'm "addicted" any more, I feel like I will never watch pornography again, I have a strength I did not have before when I realise what I am doing to myself and women in general in the 'big picture'.

Most of "the addiction" was broken when I realised I WAS NOT ALONE and others had the same problem of wanting to stop. Addiction stops when you open up and realise what the SCALE of the problem is.

Out of the nearly 400 people who have read this post YOU are the only one who has made comments such as these, which suggests to me that yes you want to stop looking at pornography, but you like society just the way it is, with males in the power position.

If my opinions upset you so much I suggest you read someone else's posts, because I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the government to ban the pornography industry anytime soon, or me to change my mind.

 

Me too, good luck

 

Very wise words Perusan, and I agree that neither "side" is right when your looking from the front or Back.

Yes this whole pornography thing is wrong, and I see my perspective as being right for me for addressing how I kick it out of my life.

Maybe I also realise that my remaining life has a lot shorter span than hellfire's (I think) so I don't have time to fart about experimenting - it has to be NOW for me. I want a good spell of clean living before I kick the bucket . . . .

I don't really like being accused of "having an agenda" though . . .