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Taoist meditation and pleasure

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by interpaul, Aug 30, 2018.

  1. interpaul

    interpaul Fapstronaut

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    After starting NoFap several months ago I had an experience 3 weeks in when I awoke with surges of pleasure in waves that kept me up for hours. I reached out to the group and a few people told me about Mantak Chia's books on Taoist meditation and Kundalini energy. It was a surprise that porn addiction could lead to NoFap which could lead to semen retention and Taoist inner cultivation practices. After discovering Taoist meditation (microcosmic orbit meditation) I felt like I'd found a way to redirect this energy in a healthy way, and I largely have. My question for those who are familiar with these practices is whether there are any trappings from the increased energy that is experienced in these meditations. I find I wake up many nights often around midnight with these surges of energy. They are non ejaculatory full body orgasms. Since they occur with my eyes closed and aren't linked with pornography or sexual thoughts and there is no masturbation it seems safe, except there is even more pleasure associated with these feelings than masturbating to porn. Have I found the holy grail or is this just another variant of edging?
     
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  2. MusicMakingMonk

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    I don't know man, all I know is I'd like to know how you do it?
     
  3. DucksInARow

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    I wouldn't describe that as edging, it is just life energy flowing through you after a period of self abuse, and spiritual ignorance.

    I have had similar experiences, though the most memorable was after taking Ayahuasca - full body orgasm with no erection or ejaculation. Very intense energy. I think we are born with this and either lose awareness of it or direct it in the wrong way. Call it kundalini/ shakti, whatever. Its the pure creative life energy that runs the physical and biological plane. Breath into it, let it do its thing, get out of the way (do necessarily equate it to sexual gratification).
     
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  4. interpaul

    interpaul Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for your thoughts. Can you clarify when you say "do necessarily equate it to sexual gratification" are you meaning don't or can you say what you are saying in a different way so I can better understand your intention
     
  5. interpaul

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    Mantak Chia wrote a book titled "Taoist secrets of love,cultivating male sexual energy". You can purchase it or may be able to find it as a free pdf for download. He is a Taoist teacher from Thailand. A bit of an interesting character if you check him out on youtube, BUT, his book is very clear and goes into this in detail. His practices are more active, meaning he helps people to channel their sexual energies to create the "multiorgasmic male". My experiences happened spontaneously and resulted from semen retention done for a different reason. My only words of caution are related to how this may affect your recovery. These practices are powerful and, if not done with some thoughtfullness, may result in more problems (I had a brief period where I combined these meditations with edging and it was not healthy for me). This stuff isn't for everyone and I wouldn't have expected I'd be following the advice of a Taoist teacher in Thailand but this journey takes you down interesting paths. This practice has made NoFap a pleasurable journey, i.e. I am disappointed if I have a spontaneous emission as I prefer feeling the new found energy in my body. Good luck to you. Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions should you explore this.
     
  6. DucksInARow

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    I mean, there may be a tendency to create sexual fantasies in the mind in response to these spiritual energies. This could lead to fapping and porn etc. If you are in a committed loving relationship you can channel them sexually with partner. Otherwise you observe those sensations as you would in meditation. Good luck!
     
  7. interpaul

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    Thanks for clarifying and good advice.
     

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