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Stanford marshmallow experiment

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by interpaul, Sep 8, 2018.

  1. interpaul

    interpaul Fapstronaut

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    For those who don't know the experiment they take little kids and give them the option of eating a marshmallow now or waiting a few minutes and eating two marshmallows later. They go on to conclude the kids who can delay gratification do better in life. NoFap is essentially giving up marshmallows altogether. My struggle in this NoFap path is accepting the loss of the marshmallow. Clearly we all have been told the harm of our past behaviors and we've been told all the good things that are supposed to happen when we give up PMO but we all struggle. We all want that good feeling we've experienced at times with PMO. I've recently found semen retention has led to non ejaculatory orgasms. These occur in the middle of the night for me and are not related to sexual thoughts or masturbation. I've questioned the group and have received different responses regarding whether this experience is good or not. Makes me a little sad we have to second guess our experience of pleasure so much. Are we all wounded or might it be we all are more sensitive to the pleasure response? Ironically I would have been the kid who waited for the two marshmallows. My friends, who don't know of my struggles with PMO, would tell me I've succeeded in life in all ways and yet I always feel like I need just one more marshmallow and I'll be ok, but ok never quite comes.
     
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  2. That is fundamentally everyone's struggle which is also true with substance abuse. People can handle the idea of being without for maybe a few weeks because there is still this carrot dangling above their head which they know with little effort they could get at any time. But tell them there wont even be the possibilty of the carrot even being there then people lose their shit.

    These days i focus more on what i am gaining rather than what i am losing or have lost but what held me back a few years back when trying to quit on my own was i believe coming to terms with the fact i had to give it up...for good and now that i feel in control years later i'm comfortable with the fact i will never go back to viewing porn again because i know what dark pits of despair await if i make the choice to go back.
     
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  3. interpaul

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    I haven't seen a 500+ days before. Any secrets you have to share? Most of the time I am good with the stuff I put in motion but once in awhile I'll something will set me off ( an ad on the side of the screen, a woman in a revealing bathing suit, etc. ) There is definitely a voice in my head that is different from the NoFap voice that once it starts to control the process it doesn't matter what I've decided I'm going to do, it seduces me with its perspective.
     
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  4. I don't think there is any real secret, i'm one of those people who had to reach rock bottom first (long story) but really it's about being honest with yourself and genuinely wanting to quit. I thought i really really wanted to quit a few years ago but i couldn't grasp the idea of being without drugs and porn forever so i had to get outside help like a 12 step programme and a psychologist amongst other things. It's really a very difficult thing to deal with just on your own, i think emotional and practical support from other like minded people is very important.
     
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  5. interpaul

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    Thanks. Yes, I am getting help from a counselor and know what you mean about it not being easy. I have been finding some of the "super powers" associated with semen retention have given me some hope I can get thru it this time.
     
  6. Mindful wolf

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    Tell me a thing usually everyone says don't be alone get out n other things, what if u live alone in ur room n at night when urge builds up what needs to done then?
     
  7. interpaul

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    If you've made it 449 day (and nights I presume), you must know the answer to your own question. I don't believe there is away to completely avoid being overwhelmed by the sexual urge. I believe the strategies people suggest help reduce the horniness but you have to develop strategies to get you thru. Given I've only made it a few months I will defer to others to share their wisdom
     

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