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Sex and the City - Male version

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by hope2overcome_, Nov 20, 2023.

  1. hope2overcome_

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    Lol, literally as the name implies. The male version means instead of waiting around for women to approach, I will be active in approaching like I have been for the past few weeks. My results are amazing but there are some bad days too. I am truly living the life. This thread will journal my experiences and the learning lessons involved. This is also motivated by the multiple approach journals of others in this page that I love reading.

    Ok, here I go!

    edit: One thing is certain. The more experience and interactions I am having with women the less porn sounds enticing. The easier I go on a streak.
     
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  2. hope2overcome_

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    Went out saturday night with 2 buddies. Note: I had a massive migraine but i wanted to go out anyways because I want it to be natural like I can approach and seduce anywhere at any time.

    We met up at a lounge. My first approach was towards a set. My friend had his girl and i had mine, my friend did well but my girl had a wierd look at grabbed her friend and they hid beneath the crowd of people. I approached a girl from panama she had big tits but i just didnt like her and i let the convo die. Then we left and went to 4 more bars. Bar 1, I approached this indian girl and the moment she saw me talking to her she ran away. Indian girls are a huge red flag they have a phobia towards the dating market, its not in their culture. I approached one more just for the heck of it and she also shut down and I left. In both bars I noticed 4 girls who were hot who were checking me out and waiting on me to approach but i got shy. This is my biggest hump I need to get over. 3rd bar, I made 1 approach and it hit. She offered to give her number to me andwe set up a date. The next bar, I approached 2 girls, 1 went really bad. The second one the girl was igly as fuck but i simply was winging and the convo ended and i was glad it did. last bar, I approached this blonde. It went well, I asked her to hook up she said not today then gave me her number and full name in. When i googled her number it turns out shes a doctor. Pretty cool. But, the headache was getting worst and worst so I reached my limit and left.

    Its thanksgiving week so most likely no dates will happen and i dont care, I want to spend time with my own family. My friend comes over from the west coast next week. It is gonna be a blast.

    Lessons: When I approach I need to approach with more calm energy, make my eyes less intense, and open with her fashion style. Also try to gear the convo into something other than "where are you from" blah blah, make it more fun for me cuz i want to be entertained also. I need to kill the nice guy, thats the main objective.
     
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    Repost about my time in vegas that I wrote in my journal.

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    anyways, I got back from vegas and phoenix last monday. I was there since the thursday of week before. Might have been the best times of my life, I was the only guy approaching but i struck gold.
    Since its been a while and i havent journaled or pmo'd, and im back on this forum im gonna write the highlights.
    so, i was at hakkassan on thursday night for allesso. I was openning girls and things were well. I remember opening a brazilian set but they were lesbian but i still insisted on having a convo and it went so amazing and they loved me. I remember asking a girl what she was dressed as and the convo went awesome but i didnt like the girl. I did approach a german girl dressed in all red and the interaction went amazing. Her friend came in to swoop her away but this chick stopped her friend so that was telling. We had an amazing 3 way conversation but she leaves for germany tomorrow and whatever, it was an amazing convo and everything was fine. I was fueled and it was nice to converse with new people.
    I was approaching girls here and there but most of them I didnt like. I know I can get her number and maybe set up a date but i kinda wanna pull. Every interaction was awesome, I hardly got rejected. On that night I dont think i was rejected at all. Every girl was hitting. And, all of this is cuz of looks. thats what women care about most.
    But then the most amazing thing happened on thursday. So, I was going inner and inner into the dance floor and dancing. My friend disappeared. idiot made an excuse that hes here just to have a good time, yeah righ dancing for 5 hrs straight? Nah dude u just got approach anxiety. I used to be like that too. But anyways, i get inner and I see this busty blonde whose like 6'2 looks like a perfect barbie and nice face too with her tits, i think DDD, almost out but contained in a bra. I couldn't believe what i saw. Ofc she's in vip and is going everywhere with ease, the night club belongs to her. She's a 10. or at the very min a 9. The fuckability factor in her is insane. I saw her and instantly wanted to fuck. She was getting so much attention when she dances even from Alesso himself that she hides behind other people. I was like WOW!! Anyways, im trying to bring good girls i like that i can pull. im walking around the outskirts and bam! I see her, the blonde with her friend. Everywhere she went there were guys throwing dick at her. Shes so hot most guys just stare with their jaws dropped. At one point i saw 2 guys both 6'3 vibing with her. and i said, let me sit back and watch experts in action. Then I realize, wtf is wrong with me? I look better than both those guys, im not 6'3 but with airforces im 6'0. Im literally the best looking guy in the entire nightclub and its not even close. These guys should be bowing down to me. Im the guy this blonde wants not them. I immediately became that guy well its cause I am him. I just step on my foot alot cuz of my upbringing. The blonde is ordering drinks so i open the friend and the friend is barely tlaking to me cuz she thinks shes hot shit but im still getting a somewhat good encounter. The the blonde becomes available and I open her and I get her number. I look at her friend and she had a smile on her face like "wow she gave him her number" which tells me she didnt do that for other guys. Then I look around and all these guys are staring with their jaws dropped. Not at me persay but more as a slut shamer towards her cuz they think shes a saint who shouldnt give her number out cuz shes so hot and perfect. I am that guy, you aren't. I evolved in that moment. But, the next day I was too tired and i never texted her and not gonna lie was a little intimidated. But, I didn't care. Went back to hakkassan and got another 10, this one was hotter face wise than blondie, shes mexican. But her male friends kept getting in the way. I didnt ask for number of anything and she was crushing on me the whoel night and her friend started to approach me for her. But, w/e i was vibing with my friends. Another note was I opened with blonde from the uk named sophie and she was complaint but i approached her as she was walking in and she eventually went to her friends and me to mine. God, SO many stories! Fuck! So many girls too. I let too much time in between before writing all this down. Anyways, so, I go to marquee after and i opened only 2 girls. This was an after party. I opened an alaskan girl but i got the hint she wasnt opened to a pull so i just left her mid convo and she was puzzled that i didnt pursue things more. I knew she was attracted to me honestly with humility ill write most girls are. Then I approach german and we had an incredible convo and to her i tried my best to pull. I asked her for a kiss and i tried my best. I dont have much exp with pulling. She was loving it she was laughing so loud her spit was coming out. I was also enjoying myself. Awesome experience. Then I left. Some interesting stuff happened after that i wont write about here. The next night i got into marquee and me and this bottle service girl kept looking at each other. Eventually she came out and i offered my hand but she ignored it, she was so shy. But from a distance she kept looking at me. Then on my way out of the dancefloor she was there with her friends she saw me but i didnt see her she got so shy and bothered she moved but when i payed her no mind at all, she looked back puzzled. That means if i approached her properly i couldnt have gotten more. She was so HOT!! Another 9/10. Easy! Omg! Another thing is when i first went into the dance floor 2 girls who was outside in line with me getting in were crushing on me at the line. Inside they were looking and i knew i had something but i didnt know what to do. Dance with them grind with them? wtf? So, I ignored her. I also opened a girl from nyc but she asked me to buy her a drink. I walked away. This was so stupid of me. I learned to buy her the drink but at a different bar like at a lounge or something. She prob was open to get pulled. She was very pretty. But not the other 3's level.

    Overall AMAZING time. Most guys dont see the adventures of a top percent guys night out because most of the time they just wanna tear the guy down. They dont want to admit hes top tier in looks and they wanna focus on their own selves. Its ego. But, should I care for their validation? No! Sometimes I do but who are they? The lowest of the low kind of guys. I should lead with action and take/get what I want/deserve. Without focus on them. Focus on me!
     
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    Quick update. I have 2 dates lined up but I am not gonna go to either, I truly believe I am way hotter than both these girls and I just know there wont be any chemistry and also I really dont wanna fuck them.

    I booked my flight to miami and that blog post is gonna be insane!
     
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    so just came back from the club. Tonight was an amazing night. I got 0 rejections and I made quite a few approaches but....something interesting happened. I lost interest in almost every girl i talked to. It just felt so boring, "where r u from","what do u do" blah blah, it felt like a chore. The interesting thing is every girl was more interested to talk to me than I was interested in talking to them. However, awesome night. But, Idk what to do to fix this. Maybe make the convo's more interesting by flirting more? Maybe it has something to do with stopping watching and even stopping thinking about porn? Idk. Only time will tell. Tomorrow night I do it all over again but hopefully this time it will go much better.
     
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    went out last night and there was TOO many ppl everywhere. It was so hard to approach. Finally went to a bar and made an approach and this girl had a disgusted look towards me. It turns out some guy pretended to be my friends friend to hit on her. Then my friend called me over and said no "thats my friend" (pointing to me). So, then they went to the bathroom and i approached her and I was like wtf was that about? And she explained to me. I then hit on her and it was seemingly going good but my friend pulled me away so I left. Then I went to a strip club, I came home and pmo'd. This is not the type of thing I want to journal here but I am to stress that my wires have been crossed by porn. I dont go full all the way to pull women, to go on dates instead I half ass everything, i speak with low confidence because i am forcing myself to talk to strangers because I am living in my head. When it comes to sexual gratification I rely on porn and thus, i half ass everything with women and the idea of a date, hooking up etc is daunting to me. I could have been on like 3 dates last week instead I chose to not text any girl who gave me her number. I need to do better! Stop living in my head and stop the comfort addiction. I need to talk with others and be the glue that ties everyone together.
     
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    so far i have only been doing night game but im gonna start day game soon. The content I write about should be incredible soon enough. Im also learning ALOT!!! that im gonna put into practice.
     
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    I believe men like these are referred to as “Fuckboys”.
     
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  9. can you update us ? i enjoy reading lol
     
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    1/26/24 - I finally went out during this frigid flu spreading winter. I feel amazing but I dont look amazing. I actually feel like something is wrong. But, w/e, im still gonna go out despite not feeling it because no1 is 100% going to feel it. Anyways, so, i went out to 2 venues. With 3 friends there for the same reasons as me. It's awesome to have amazing friends who got our backs.
    I was not receiving the star in the eyes look girls usually show me. I didnt think I was hot, I thought the girls disliked me. Or...idk.

    so here is how it went. I met up with 2 friends at this venue. 1 of my friends, 6'4 guy is already hot and totally in with this girl he later pulled to this apt and fucked. She is kinda fat and im not into her at all plus shes like 6'2. She had a small friend with her so I approached her. She was like a 2/10. But I did sense a feeling of "keep a distance from me" and I disliked that. I felt she wasn't attracted to me. But, I was really really not attracted to her and outside the bars I wouldn't even acknowledge that she exists. I did look around and saw this spanish/middle eastern girl continuously looking over at me. I think she liked me but she was dancing with 2 other girls and it required way too much confidence to break that. So, what I did was push and practice with the girl I was with. I am proud of my conversation skills its getting better and better and i'm able to come out of my shell more and be my awesome self.

    Anyways, me and 1 friend left while the other one pulled. We met up with another friend at this super cool venue not too far away. We walked there huge line, attractive girls here. That other friend got us in skipping the line. We were inside and girls literally everywhere. Im 34 but pass as 26, and all the girls inside were like 21-22 college girls and the guys were like 25-30. I did see like 40 yr olds talking to girls. Anyways, the age gap isnt the issue but their age is, ill speak more on that in a few.

    Anyways, I walk in and get in line to coat check and I notice 2 girls behind me checking me out every 30 seconds but too much effort shes with all her friends if I talked with her all her friends would be listening in. It would be awkward and this common theme of "burden of performance" keeps plaguing me.

    Anyways, its approach time now. So, we get into the main dance hall and there are groups everywhere. My friend is hyper active and just approaching left and right. Im having convo's. So, I approach this egyption girl and he gets with her white friend. Things are actually going well with my girl but i think things went bad for him so he pulled me away. I loved the part that im not just having boring convo's, "where u from", "what part", blah blah, I was going deeper and the convo was going smoothly. But, I did notice she wanted to keep a small distance from me. Later on she did get closer and was smiling alot so maybe i pierced the shield. Normally, im not even used to the shield when I approach, so im thinking wtf is going on? Am I looking 34 now than ever before? Mind you, I only showered and left I didnt groom or anything plus im wearing an old shirt. w/e. Im not here for a gf, im here for practice and one night stands.

    Ok moving one, second girl. She's italian and i could barely make out what she was saying and eventually some guy came over and they left but not together. SO, i dont think they knew each other. Was I being cockblocked? w.e. Within 20 seconds, I approached another one. But, this convo was super boring and she was super fat. However, she had an attractive friend. My friend approached her and within 10 seconds they were making out. Wow!! My girl got her and pulled her away and we left. After that I didn't approach much. This one super hot bodied girl but she just looked at me and then looked away. She didn't talk to any guy at all. I made one more approach but she wasn't interested at all.

    Edit: Oh, noteworthy approach I did. This blonde 20 yr old college girl. I seen her looking me down and everytime im even remotely close to her fixing her hair like crazy. I knew she liked me I walked by her 4 times and every time she reacted to me with arousal. I normally dont approach those girls because there is a burden of performance. But, I need to. I approached her. I made the convo funny and she was laughing. She was with her 2 friends, they looked at me and her and it looked like they approved. But, she said she wanted to go back to her friends. Hmm...I think she was nervous and I could have been more persistent. this is the part where a man has to kind of hold not just the convo but her also away from shy introvertedness.

    I was there for only an hour I guess. However, the night was alright. My looks didn't help me much. I did manage to get somewhat of a good time.

    The good parts of the night:
    1.)I pushed the boundaries of the conversation making it less boring.
    2.) My voice was more loud and alive rather than deep and silent. Im more of myself than ever before. This enables me to show my charisma.
    3.) I did go out despite pmo'ing, not well groomed, dressed and only showered and also while knowingi look bad.

    The bad parts:
    1.) My opener needs to change. Whats ur name isn't gonna cut it.
    I came up with some funny openers:
    a.) you looked kinda bored so I had to come in and save you from that, hi my name is ___.

    lines to say mid convo:
    b.) oh your ethnicity is __, I want to have half her ethnicity babies, i think they would come out looking good.
    c.) I think we would look good together.

    2.). The indian girls really hated me, holy shit. they loved the white guys. I didnt approach but they gave me the "ew" look. They are what I call self hating indians. I dont even consider them date worthy and I dont even pay them any attention at all. yet, they go out of their way to make "ew" faces. I need to be better at confronting that. I spoke with my friend and he told me he will confront them also.

    3.). I came out with nothing, no kisses, no numbers. Mind you i been out for over 2 months. I was also jealous of my friend who got that kiss in 10 seconds. And, she was attractive too. How do I escalate?

    Things to improve on: (Most important)
    1.) Make the convo more fun and interesting by injecting the lines above and having a more situational opener.
    2.) Have a more positive face
    3.) Learn how to kino escalate
    4.) Get a kiss at least
    5.) learn to segway from talking to dancing.
    6.) I think if I can do 4 and 5 I can pull bcuz thats what I see my friends doing.

    Note: About young girls. They have little or no experience and they are there just to look around and drink and dance with friends. They are like an anchor its hard to move them. They are hesitant to do anything at all.
     
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    Hey man, I am almost 34 too.

    I got a couple of cute girls phone numbers the last couple times I went out, but both times it didn’t turn into anything more

    what kind of night life places do you go to? Do you drink alcohol when you go out?
     
  12. hope2overcome_

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    bars,lounges,clubs. But, im gonna expand to the groceries, stores, pretty much everywhere.
    I use the approaching at night game for one night stands and practice. Day time with women who are around me and have a crush on me like at work, at the gym, my dance class, socials etc are my real targets.

    It's very common for phone numbers to not result in anything when you 2 conditions are met,
    1.) night time approach at a bar
    2.) when they are young.
    Why? At nigh time girls think ur a guy looking for sex and so their shields are up big time. And young girls are less confident, less experienced and think their whole life is ahead of them so they will likely not be interested. And, if your a hot guy they will get super shy and avoident. It takes more effort to comfort them and ease them into things.

    During the day.....its a whole different ball game. Holy shit!
     
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