Real sex in the old days

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by NfBigGlP, Jul 1, 2022.

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  1. NfBigGlP

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    I really want to have sex. But I'm a teenager and I know that I should get married first. I am wondering in the old days like 500 years ago or during the Roman Empire or in tribal groups what did teenagers do? Did we get married? or do it with older women? or just figure something out?
    The issue is the modern age of porn and the internet and modern home privacy.
    What if I lived in a field as a Shepard? or in a boarding type of school or orphanage?
    What would I have done then? Is it possible to get back to our primal roots without being stranded on an island? If I was on an island would things be like the Lord of the Flies and crazy?
    Any ideas on how best to get back to a adolescence of the old days?
    Or was there even such a thing? I have heard that back in those days 12-14 was transition from child to adult and there wasn't much in between. Could I have got married and had sex at 14 and a job and a family?
     
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    Most indigenous cultures had a rite of passage to initiate boys into manhood around the age of sexual maturity. Often they were separated from the tribe, especially the women, for a while and when the initiation (period) was completed, they were considered to be adult men and mature enough to marry/have sex.
     
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    I wish we still did that
     
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    What would you like about and expect from it?
     
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    Fulfillment and happiness. And I want to become a man so I can have sex. Some people would say I’m too young or I can’t get married but I want to be able to have a woman and sleep with her and not feel like there is anything wrong with that. plus just sounds like a lot of fun
     
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    That did bring fulfillment, Even today there are tribes in the amazon and south america where a boy becomes a man about 13 or 14 then starts to provide for the family and gets married. Initiation can involve the start of wearing a covering so they are not naked or even circumcision
     
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    Being naked acctully seems like it would help with nf stuff. That way I would not be as curious or ashamed. But seems really wierd too. One of my friends when to a swimming pool that everyone was naked at.
    That would be crazy to get circumcised. Why would they do that?
     
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    Yes there are nudist places where people of all ages and genders swim and do things naked. Seems strange to me. I'm only naked in locker rooms and sauna/ hot tub areas. Other then that and esp around females I'm clothed. That's probably why the guys are separated from the females during indigenous culture rite of passage events. Females make males think of sex but being around other guys there is no sexual feelings.
    I think The circumcision cut gives a man more modesty feeling as he is more exposed if naked. Sort of forces you to grow up and accept you place as a man.
    Your feelings of wanting to have a woman and sex are nothing new. Young men even in early teenage years have been having sex and even getting married and working through out history.
    If this were the middle ages you could be married and have a child and a job at 15, but life expectancy then was much lower than today.
    Teenagers often lost their parents at young ages and had to work or be taken in and supported by family or neighbors. I believe life is still like this in some cultures esp. in Africa and India.
     
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    Really? Yes I have only been naked around guys. Around girls would be a really bad idea. Would be very embarrassing.
    I'm glad I'm not circumcised. Seems silly to me.
    The thing is I don't want just sex. I want the full relationship woman got life family kids.
    I know this isn't the Middle ages but my hormones are the same as if it was. Hum wish I could go to the county and just build a house and find a wife and make a little life. Maybe I could go to South Africa
     
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    Maybe just try focusing on other things in the mean time. A girlfriend will come and you can go from there. Remember P is a new thing. So you got to cut that out from your life. Then just have to see what happens. I guess a circumcision is a bit silly today. It may help keep guys from getting urges. If family life is your goal then stay off PMO for that motivation.
     
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    I wish I could be living in a boys home type of place. I think if I was that PMO would not be much of a problem. I imagine that's how a lot of teenagers lived back in the middle ages. I need more real life relationships. Im wanting to go from being a kid to being married. There has to be some in between. I need friends like brothers and mentors like fathers. I would like to move out of my moms home.
     
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    You should enjoy the in between stages. Maybe there are options for you if you want to leave home for a while. Maybe some kind of long summer camp. Don't do things that make you think about sex. Focus on the positive and try and find a local man to mentor if you need some support from time to time.
     
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    Only things that don't make me think about sex are being outside and hanging with other guys. Summer camp would be so cool. But I don't think my mom would let me go.
     
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    you could try going to church camp. How about getting a job for the summer? That would be a great outlet for you. You would meet people and get paid. Just some ideas
     
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    Hum, yeah a job would be s good idea. Church camp sounds amazing but I don't know how to go. I'll see about what my job options are. Thanks for the advice bro
     
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    Sure thing man. That's what discussing life with a mentor is all about. I hope all goes well.
     
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  17. i went to church camp when i was around your age. its so much fun! just visit local churches, and there will usually always be a youth group. Like there was a junior high and high school group for my church, and whichever age group you are part of, ask the leader of that group (the speaker/pastor of the group) when church camp is. It does cost a bit of money but its worth it

    First just ask your parents to drop you off at church. Join the youth group and listen in. At the end, ask the leader about any summer camps going on.
     
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    It’s a good idea I’m just a bit shy. I think they are only for 1 week and I would really like to be gone for 1 month or more. I heard all about youth groups and while I’m shy I also don’t feel like I would fit in. My background is just different then the other teenagers. I think a Boy Scout type of outdoor camp would be better. Esp. With my pmo issues that may help more.
     
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  19. You do not need to get married to have sex, although it would be ideal. The only way really to get sex at your age is to find a girlfriend. First get to know her, get closer, ask her to go out for food with you, and then if things are working out, ask her to be your gf. Then sex will come

    You have two options:
    1) what i stated above about getting a girlfriend
    2) self control- realistically if you dont get a girlfriend in the next few years, you will have to wait. The worst thing you can do is PMO, because that will make you LOSE your chance of attracting a mate. This is very important. Its a lose lose for masturbators. You lose the one thing that makes you a man, that which makes you attractive... When you abstain for long enough, the urges become manageable. But when you PMO, you are nothing but a rabid dog, whose urges are constantly controlling you... and as i said, the irony is you decrease your chances of being able to have sex by 1000%.

    By masturbating, long story short (but trust me its true) you are essentially broadcasting your status as a beta male (someone unable to get women so they must resort to masturbation). women pick up on these pheromones and signals that you are sending out. By 'signals',

    see my post: The pernicious habit of onanism (treatise from the 1800s)- avoidation that will make you quit | NoFap®
     
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    I’ll check out your post very interesting. I heard of pheromones but don’t know much about them. It’s weird but I actually think when I get a streak going I start to smell like semen. It maybe my imagination but seems true. I believe in marriage for sex for the most part. Could get in a lot of trouble any other way.
    That’s good info and motivational for sure, thanks bro
     
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