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Porn caused paraphilia

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by I will pull through this, Mar 12, 2022.

  1. Hi there everyone… For privacy reasons I will not disclose my age unless I am asked privately and it is relevant… Anyways I have to explain myself here because I need answers… Also I have Aspergers and OCD so keep that in mind…

    For a long time I have been watching porn… I have developed HOCD (not from porn but anal stimulation which I wrote about in another post) and that has caused me to try to search ways to get rid of it… If you’d like to read about it then look at my last post…

    So anyway, I was unfortunately exposed to porn at a very early age (eight years old) and it happened to be gay porn… My mom caught it and told me how it was wrong and stuff, and I’m very glad she caught it… What happened after though was I started watching porn a year or two after that and this was straight porn… Straight porn did feel more natural because I realized that sex between a man and a woman was natural but I think I probably always felt a little insecure with myself because of what happened when I was eight… I think if I wanted to I could watch gay porn and probably ejaculate to it if I tried to… Same thing with anything else, I mean I could literally ejaculate to any type of porn whether or not I found it disgusting… I mean I’ve also really liked women receiving anal since I’ve been watching porn as well and I feel like that’s even pretty perverted… It made me feel almost like an animal when I was eight and so I felt very confused… I feel like because sex wasn’t explained in great detail to me when I was younger and I had to figure out for myself how it worked I have never had a great impression or idea of sex… I’ve always felt guilty for having sexual thoughts as well and urges… Thing is I feel like porn has made me be able to fantasize about certain thoughts more and has made me in the past few years be more susceptible to not having a good idea of sex… It makes me feel bad because I don’t feel emotionally attracted to dudes and I don’t even consciously feel physically attracted to dudes but I think me not being repulsed by them is what really has me confused… I’m not really repulsed by any type of porn and that’s what scares me because I think if I had not been exposed at such an early age to porn then I would’ve actually been able to let’s say watch it now and actually have more of a repulsion to it… The morals keep me from watching porn but I don’t feel physically repulsed… Most dudes would instantly feel turned off by things that I can maintain an erection in if I tried…

    Basically I’m just wondering if I tried to quit watching porn, would these paraphilias go away? I think I’ve conditioned myself to only think of women, which I definitely would think of women naturally anyway but I think I have the ability to think of other sexual thoughts too which is what frightens me… I’ve always tried to get the thoughts out of my head as well and avoid them because I hated having them and they made me feel guilty… I just wonder if everyone has paraphilias or the ability to have them and just ignore them because of moral things or what… I just wish I could be normal and I wonder if I could remove the effects that porn has had on me for years if I quit porn… Could anyone help me out? Thanks… Also sorry for any sloppy or confused writing but I’m having trouble concentrating at the moment so it’s hard to write and maintain steady thought…
     
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  3. treed

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    If you start from the first definition I found of paraphilias on the internet its :

    "Paraphilias are frequent, intense, sexually arousing fantasies or behaviors that involve inanimate objects, children or nonconsenting adults, or suffering or humiliation of oneself or the partner."

    And that's also steeped in conventional norms of human behavior dictated by Judeo-Christian morals, and those are the results of different waves of changes throughout history, for example, after the black plague killed a whole bunch of people in Europe, at the same time came up the advent of protestant christianity and the reformations which included a more stringent approach to homosexual behavior or what's seen as "sinful" in order to increase the repopulation rate.

    Same for right now, being gay in the late 1800 in Canada/USA led some people to be jailed for life, then at some point it stopped being seen as a moral failure and it started becoming medicalized, so it was seen as a mental illness. And now it's not deemed as an illness in the DSM-V ( Diagnostic manual of mental health), nor in the internationally used ICD-11 that regroups all diseases. It's the same for being transgender, or non-binary which are issues of identity rather than being issues of sexual orientation, but those too are turning from being qualified as "diseases" to becoming "identifyers".

    Maybe the "paraphilias" will go away if you stop watching porn, I think that's only something you'll know by abstaining like the other poster said previously.

    I feel that maybe it's also an opportunity to ask yourself about your own morals, about what you think is "natural" sexuality, and what might seem as "natural" might just be that way because you're shown heterosexual couples and love all over the place, in the movies, in the ads you watch, in class, in your family potentially as well, people call it heterosexism or heteronormativity, but it's basically that it's more "normal" to be in heterosexual relationships because that's how you make kids, thats how relationships are framed in the media we consume, etc..

    when I read what you wrote, all I see is someone who seems to not feel disgusted with something that he believes he, maybe, should feel disgusted by, because other boys "might or would" be disgusted as well. And it's okay to feel like that, I think its entirely natural.
     
  4. Sir first of all I am not Christian, I am agnostic… I do not believe that you’re born being gay and I believe it’s a choice to delve into a fetish… I’ve already gained a fetish for anal and the fact that I could so easily delve into gayness is what scares me… I don’t feel extremely resistant to it… Another thing is a lot of dudes who watch porn start watching trans or gay porn instead of straight porn and so it’s certainly not extremely difficult to go down that route… I think this comes more from my own insecurity with what happened when I was eight than anything… See thing is I believe if you let yourself masturbate to anything you can start to become attracted to whatever you masturbate to, I think most people are straight probably because they only get attracted to who they enjoy being around but the problem with me is that I am easily able to pick up fetishes if they seem dirty and gay is one of those fetishes…

    I want the idea of sex for me to be beautiful not dirty but I feel like early exposure to porn has made that hard for me… Gayness is not beautiful it’s rather disgusting, in fact I believe sticking your penis up someone’s butt is disgusting and isn’t a good thing to do… With a woman it’s at least a little more beautiful but it’s still not sexually healthy at all… Sticking your penis up a vagina is different and is a healthy course of life… All I’m saying is that I want my paraphilias to be cured because I feel like even anal is a paraphilia… I don’t care what these people say about sexual orientation and identity, that’s all stupid and should be abandoned because most people who are straight have a healthy idea of sex, I don’t believe I do because if I did I wouldn’t even need to watch porn…

    Before commenting please read my last post please, like I asked you to do in the other… It’s about anal stimulation… That way you have a better understanding of what I went through and how this even happened in the first place… I’m tired of being told it’s okay to be gay, no it’s not it is simply not healthy and will kill you emotionally and morally… People who are can still fight to have good morals but that is when they essentially pretty much become animals… I’m not putting anyone gay down because I like a lot of people who happen to be gay but still, there’s no reason to have sex with a male when you can have sex with a female and get the exact same stimulation… It is a literal fetish…
     
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  5. Also I feel like most gay people probably aren’t actually gay and think they are because they get convinced that any stimulant towards dudes automatically think they’re gay… Seems almost like to me that there are no truly gay people and that gayness is only you getting more attracted to men because you keep on exercising that attraction… If anyone exercised that attraction they could become gay…

    Sir I just ask that if you’re going to say that I shouldn’t worry about being gay because it’s not wrong and stuff and try to convince me that what I’m going through is because I’m gay then please get off this thread… Honestly I’m tired and have emotional issues right now so I can’t even think straight about who I like and who I don’t because my emotional stability is whacked… You saying that there’s nothing wrong with being gay is not good for my mental and emotional stability… Also every time I get naturally erect (rare right now because of ED from the OCD I am assuming) I go and masturbate to women…
     
  6. Also please go read up on HOCD or SO-OCD, even Purely obsessive OCD, because those with that will also think they’re pedophiles or serial killers… I used to think it would be easy to kill people so should I just go and murder people now just because I have some fake impulse? Should I go have sex with a whole bunch of dudes just because I have a fake impulse?
     
  7. treed

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    I hear you on all your points, it's a lot to unpack,
    if you do feel like anal sex with women or men is "wrong", then it's wrong for you and that's fine.
    Tons of straigh or gay men don't have anal sex because they think it's wrong.
    And if you believe that anyone can condition themselves to be gay, that's fine too.

    And about the OCD, maybe a mental health professional who's impartial could help you figure it out for yourself.
    Anyway good luck,
    I hear you, it does seem difficult.
     
  8. First of all, I really like your critical approach towards the matter. It has been so common nowadays in the western culture to label every perverted sexual behavior or escalation as healthy and avoiding what we naturally believe to be healthy and instinctual sexual behavior as humans. Seeking women has been always innate for men and boys since the dawn of time. That does not of course precludes the eccentric tendency of few men to look up to an unaccustomed ways to exert their sexuality onto. The human brain according to the latest researches has been found out to be highly spastic, our experiences and behaviors greatly reshape our synaptic pathways and will ultimately alter our tastes and inclinations as explained by Norman Doidge in his book "the brain that changes itself". Therefore, it is extremely ignorant and detrimental to normalize those perversions as just a merely alternative normal thing. The Judeo Christian values as well as the Islamic ones preaches against the deviations from the normal lawful sexual relationship between the man and his wife and deal with it as sinful and punishable by god, for a good reason. I understand that as an agnostic you may not want no religious mentioning in our conversation, but I think it is pivotal. We need to consider the ideological root of the issue here and to dare to question and criticize our value system.

    This last paragraph is mainly to reply to @treed 's account of the matter. From a personal experience, I have been suffering just like you. I started watching porn too from a very early age and I was exposed to gay porn and transsexual porn. I too have started experimenting anal stimulation and even penetration since high school. I am not proud to have done this at all. In contrary to that, I feel ashamed to have violated my body and I wish I have never done this to myself. I remember that all these thoughts have completely ceased to exist during my 74 days abstinence from porn and I was feeling more masculine than I have ever felt in my entire life. Whenever I think about sex, I'd imagine a very attractive female and I would think that just normal intimate sex with her would feel amazing. Upon my relapse from this long streak. I kept my new sexuality for few months before everything got back like it used to be after some time of watching porn.

    I have been trying to abstain for the past 2 years after this great victory I have made but I was unable to recover for greater than few weeks. One of the main causes that I am returning now to this forum is how bad my paraphilias are becoming. No porn nowadays truly satisfies me and I want great escalations and this is making me very worried of what I may become If I did not take this seriously and let myself sink deep down the rabbit hole.

    Please listen watch this interview of serial killer and predator Ted Bundy explaining how porn played a big role in his criminal offenses.

     
  9. I still masturbate and fantasize to anal thoughts and stuff though which is the problem… I’m just afraid of conditioning myself to become gay… Thankfully since I was eight I have channeled it towards women only but ever since what I said happened in my other post I have doubted myself and what I would do in certain situations given certain circumstances… I think what happened when I was eight just terrified me…
     
  10. In my opinion you should not adopt the black and white mentality. Your fear of this is fully understandable and reasonable. But I think you should not let it define you in any way. There are some incidents in your life that took place that led to this corrupted thought process and taste and you should resist it because you know deep within yourself that it is not you. Don't doubt yourself and just think about how things are going to get better if you quit. Remember it is the PMO (Porn, masturbation and orgasm) that you should aim for. Masturbating using imaginations of a damaged brain will ultimately arise from the past flawed experiences that you had. While abstaining for very long periods of time like 90 days or more will allow your brain to heal and your inborn pathways to become apparent.
     
  11. keep in mind too that even some individuals who suffer from similar sexual obsessions and fears may have a rather completely healthy childhood. It is through getting bombarded by extremely super-stimuli coupled with the general theme of degeneracy widespread among Porn sites that will lead to the alteration of the sexual appetite. This is temporary however and the problem will go away Inshallah (If God wills) as soon as you start giving up PMO.
     
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  12. SpartanWarriorForLife

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    Holly Chrised !!! This video sent chills down my spine !!! Dang !!! i'm never watching porn ever again !!! The sad part is that Ted actually sounds like a smart guy when he talks ! maybe in an ulternate reaity he could've been a manager at Wall-Mart ! but then again being smart.and charismatic is a common trait in serial killers , not sure if the sosiopath who feels no guilt or no emotions when murdering or hurting someone has actually abnormal mental process like mentally unbalanced from birth , or can be pushed over the edge by certain events or situations to commit crimes and transformes into a criminal , but Ted here in the interview seems to convey a little bit of guilt for the crimes he did , he's not like the joker a complete psychopath sitting there smiling and saying i would've done it again or making rationalizations for what he did ! i still can't belive that something is as lethal as porn as easily accessable for free everywhere to people of all ages ! it's a dangerous world we live in , i don't think i will ever have kids , i don't know what could they be exposed to !!!
     
  13. Yes Ted was extremely intelligent with an IQ of 136 and he was also a lawyer (I study people with high IQs because they interest me)… Besides the fact that he killed thirty-something women he chillingly seems like a pretty normal guy…
     
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    The black guy ramsy something in the "Dead Giveaway" interview when he talked about his nebour who got caught holding little girls in his basement for whatever bad reason , the black guy said that his nebour has big testecles because he was always hanging around in the frony yard and he was friendly and having barbequ's and invited the nebours over several times and that he had ribs with him !!! i don't trust anyone who is extremely nice !!!
     
  15. Nah man I’m not into all that it’s fluid stuff, you either are or you aren’t one of those things to me… That’s the way I view it, and honestly people shouldn’t act on whatever they like sexually people should be more grounded… I’m simply afraid of not being grounded…

    And I’ve been going to therapy for three months now…
     
  16. I said normal you don’t have to be nice to be normal… But yes he seemed like a relatively good person too on the outside… And maybe he actually was but didn’t know how to deal with his obsession with killing/raping women… Some people who do that aren’t actually evil they just don’t understand their impulses and feel bad afterwards… I feel bad for those people and hope they can get help in a mental hospital instead of being punished…
     
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    Thank God we weren't born in the savage stone age , the cave men would've had us for dinner !!!
     
  18. There were survivors so not necessarily…
     
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