I was browsing for wallpapers for my phone and Google suggested that I look up Ecchi. Unaware, I added that word to the four characters I was looking at and pressed enter. Girls in bikinis, panties and other lingerie pictures flashed across my screen. With a huge blush on my face, I quickly closed them before it could lead to something else. However, as I thought on it, I had no sexual arousal from looking at the pictures. So my two questions to my fellow Fapstronauts. Is Ecchi considered Art or Porn? Was that a relapse on the P side if so?
The word ecchi has been adopted by fans of Japanese media to describe works with sexual overtones. In Japanese, the word ecchi is often used to describe a person's conduct, but in fandom, it has come to be used to refer to softcore or playful sexuality, as distinct from the word hentai, which connotes perversion or fetishism. Works described as ecchi do not show sexual intercourse or genitalia, but sexual themes are referenced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecchi This quotation ^ makes the matter plain. But in the example you gave, I would not consider it a relapse as there was no intent. I suppose, you could say ecchi is both art and porn. But the latter is reason enough not to allow yourself to view it.
For me the general rule of thumb is that if I'm asking that question in the first place then I probably know the answer in my heart. We've got to be ruthless in this journey. To me, asking 'how much you can get away with' is a sign that your attitude is still a bit off-kilter. Put it this way, there are literally hundreds of thousands of images out there that are completely safe and healthy. Why pick one from a grey area when there are so many more that you just don't need to worry about?
I have this extreme urge in my chest from a fantasy I encountered of muscular women wrestling men. Damn its getting hard. I'm starting to bath my brain with dopamine of viewing photographs of large women. I think I'm about to relapse. this is unbearable
This is a clear trigger for you. Do something physical to change your mind state. Go for a walk. Have a cold shower. Call a friend & talk. Do what works for you, to get out of that state. And obviously, avoid looking at images, videos etc, with that kind of content. Sometimes it's a matter of getting up & moving away - physically or mentally. Reboot & recovery means our will gets tested. Strength! T22.
but its getting really hard. I mean it is the only thing that I can think of. I cant think clear anymore. I have got an journey buddy been talking to him and I work out everyday to ware by self out after that I take an ice shower. the urge will get weaker after that but it is still fucking there and the next morning its strong. this fucking fantasy is hard to beat.
Sure, you're feeling a strong drive to obsess on this particular fantasy. We have all been there at times. Remember though, you are not powerless. Have you looked into mindfulness exercises? That might help you. T22.
Well I googled this ecci "art" It's clearly softcore Spoiler hentai. Spoiler Too me this is P, and that's saying something because I've watched so much P in this last 13 years I should in theory be immune to the effects.
Well I feel like looking up ecchi now anf looking but i wont cause i feel like it may trigger me..so.. My answer is obvious haha
Yeah I had no idea what it was util I read the thread, for nofaps sake I'm glad I didn't google it... I guess porn is really personal to each, lots of different that's will trigger different people
I googled it and basically this (description) possible triggers Spoiler Japanese style comics / images (with a different name) that depict semi nude or full nude disproportionately shaped girl characters upper and lower shape with thin middle. I put myself in the firing line so you don't have to. It is P in my book. It made me gaze but I have good self control so I was fine, but for other people it could be a very easy trigger.