Permanent injury and my warning for you

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by BravelyKegger, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. cleaningupmyact

    cleaningupmyact Fapstronaut

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    so much here, let me try to respond:
    1. no one is debating that super irregular once-in-a-long-while masturbation (of any kind) will damage the pp.

    2. there is no such thing as "normal amount of PMO" - if by PMO you mean todays modern high-speed internet porn industry.

    once you learn more about the industry and the drastic social effects its having (massive increase in sexual aggression / rape, among other things), the fact that the common age to start PMO for males is 9-11years old now, etc. you will see that its a highly toxic thing. check out ftnd.org - I think it would help.

    >>Even nowadays, millions of people masturbates using porn, without any issue>>

    the problem here is what is viewed as "normal" - just because millions of people do it? Millions upon millions of people used to smoke cigarettes every day and drop dead of lung cancer, too. Im sure many of them thought it was "without issue." We are the canary in the coal mine since we experience the most extreme effects of PMO (aside from actors / industry people sex trafficked). But that doesnt mean everyone else isnt getting fucked up from it too.

    >>this is just my opinion here, but I think is less harmful for us a very quick masturbation without porn>>

    I agree. I am not anti-masturbation.

    >>if we're here it's not because "the porn industry is evil and bad", but because WE took it in the wrong way>>

    My friend, I really hope your learn to challenge this belief. Check out some of the posts people share here about the industry and testimonials from ex-P stars. It is harrowing stuff, full of violence, rape, coercion, drugs, sex trafficking, grooming, blackmail, and more. Aside from the literal mafia and drug cartels (which are often connected to it), I literally cant think of an industry MORE evil and bad than the modern P industry. Please, just look into it some. Watch this:
     
  2. kenshin81

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    What is the "common" sense of what can be considered normal, which is still subjective of course. 15 hours day we could all agree that's not normal, 1 or 2 times a week for half hour each time can be considered normal.

    Sexual aggressions and rape is seen also in population where the porn industry is not so widespread (or we could say: in countries very "closed" to porn, where women are way less considered than men).

    Even the age for sexual intercourse is getting lower, not always due to porn. It's just the "interests" are changing fast. When I was a teenager in the 80's, a boy would play with friends at least until his early 20s without thinking too much about sex or girls. Nowadays, boys and girls at their 13-14s start to do parties where they simply ask: "do you want to kiss me?" (french kiss of course). I don't think the link to porn is so strong here... they just see this on standard movies, plus add the sky rocket hormones...

    It was "thanks" to that million smokers that we were able to demonstrate the link between smoke and lung cancer. On our case we have millions of boys/men (a higher number than the ones that smoke cigarettes) that masturbates with porn. The PIED cases we have only affects the men who do that compulsively or are addicted to it.

    If they don't have issues... they're not fucked up.

    For each video you link asserting that, I can find another link who says quite the "opposite" (i.e. interviews of ex pornstars that says it was their choice, without any forcing). Don't also understimate OnlyFans and similar. This is the "new" amateur porn, they do that for money, they earn a lot of money and they do that surely by their own will, if you want to exclude porn industry. But anyway, that's not the main point here. I mean, a pornstar can even be forced/raped as you wrote, but the choice to download a movie of this pornstar is "ours". Nobody forced you to look for that porn video or pornstar. You can't blame the porn industry (or now: onlyfans, psub videos on IG/TikTok...) if you become addicted in some way. Even guns exists, but nobody force you to buy one and use it to kill innocents on a street. It's your choice but you need to accept the possible consequences if you use it in the wrong way.
     
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  3. SquidCook

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    So, if you are 25 as your profile says, at least six years ago. Have you been to a urologist recently? Or a neurologist?

    It also might not seem like the most obvious cause but have you had a medical professional check the state of your pelvic floor. There’s a condition called Chronic Pelvic Pain Syndrome and it can cause the same symptoms you’re experiencing (pain/numbness).

    The idea is basically that long and/or frequent masturbation sessions can cause your pelvic floor muscles to become chronically tense and start clamping down on the nerves there, causing the numbness and pain you’ve described.

    If you haven’t done so yet, this might be the path you want to explore.
     
  4. SquidCook

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    Also, do not give up on hope. You’re still young so there’s always a possibility that you’ll heal over time. Maybe it won’t heal on its own given that you’ve been dealing with this for so long but that doesn’t guarantee that there’s nothing that would be able to help you.
     
  5. cleaningupmyact

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    You are clearly deep in denial about wanting to be a "normal" porn user. and in denial about the harms of this industry.
    Some facts:

    As of 2014, over 125 porn stars had died from AIDS since 1988.

    119 porn stars died prematurely between 2007 and 2013:
    - 7 died from AIDS
    - 24 died from drugs
    - 19 died from suicide
    - 17 were murdered
    - 6 were “accidental” (probably from alcohol or drugs)
    - 39 died prematurely from medical conditions
    - 7 died from unknown causes

    - Porn has killed more people from AIDS, drugs, suicide than any other industry
    - Young girls are lured in, coerced, and forced to do sex acts that never agreed to
    - Young girls are promised they will be kept safe from STD’s
    - Young girls are given alcohol and drugs to get through hardcore scenes where they are choked, hit, slapped, and called names
    - Young girls are sent to non-licensed doctors for medical care
    - If young girls try to leave, they are threatened with murder, abuse, or that the footage will be sent to their family

    According to the LA County Dept of Public Health, porn stars:
    - Are 10 times from likely to be infected with an STD than members of the population at large
    - 2013 cases of Chlamydia and 965 cases of Gonorrhea among porn stars between 2003 and 2007
    - April 2004 to March 2008 there have been 2847 STD infections diagnosed among 1884 porn stars
    - Suffer multiple infections, with some performers having 4 or more infections in a year’s time
    - Chlamydia & Gonorrhea among porn stars in 10x greater than that of LA County 20 – 24 year olds


    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?t...s-in-last-2-months.358005/page-2#post-3764375
    Is a good thread if you want to learn more.

    if knowing all this still makes you want to be a "normal" porn consumer, and think that there is such a thing, then I can't help you. I wish you luck in your recovery bro.
     
  6. I_always_try_again

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    it is called edema or something like that. It is caused by the blood vessel around Penis geting damaged or swollen. But it will get repaired around 1-2 months. I am terrified to know that permanent conditions like that exist out there. I am also a type of man who always had this problem due to non lubricant fap, for 20 years. My penis will look like erected in pants but it's actually swollen due to this fap. I feel embrassed when people look at me and mistake i am erect. I am very sad that people will think i am a Prevert as well. So i faced a lot of issues due to this fap.