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One of the reasons for infant circumcision was to prevent masturbation!

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Deleted Account, Aug 20, 2018.

  1. The words of the title are among the many fascinating facts revealed in the following, exhaustively researched video…



    Eric raises the question as to whether circumcision of male babies is appropriate in US, where the practice is common.

    Please give your views below. Be mindful of showing respect to everyone commenting. There is no excuse for insults.
     
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  2. EmmyB

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    I think circumcised guys probably do fap less. Plus it's a lot more hygienic and nicer looking. Which kind of gets me into an area I don't want to go to, as I'm on nofap...
     
  3. JoePineapples

    JoePineapples Fapstronaut

    Mr Kellogg, of the cornflakes fame was largely responsible (haven't had the chance to watch the video, so I'm restating what it says, apologies).
     
  4. Healed!

    Healed! Fapstronaut

    Somehow I have a hard time believing circumcision has anything to do with the frequency of M. If a guy is clean overall, his dick will be clean too, regardless if he’s cut or uncut. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Somehow we’ve convinced ourselves that the altered state is more attractive than the natural, whether it’s faces or pubes or penises.
     
  5. IMO, it is no more or less hygienic than any other part of the body, when it is washed. There is a myth that men with a foreskin do not keep themselves clean. Do you also suggest that these same men do not clean their teeth for example?

    IMO a penis with a scar is not "nicer looking" than a natural penis. A baby boy is 'perfect' when born and does not need to be surgically altered for aesthetics. In fact, only ⅓ of males worldwide are circumcised and the majority of those happen for religious reasons (mostly Muslims). So, there is no global movement to perform infant circumcision based on how it looks. Your opinion that a cut penis is "nicer looking" puts you in a massive minority.
     
  6. Healed!

    Healed! Fapstronaut

    I listened to the whole thing. I agree with his conclusion that circumcision is totally unnecessary and wrong for parents to impose on their infant sons and that many parents do it without thinking and without good reason. We have to remember his talk is billed as a piece of theater, so keep in mind he’s overstating his case. I don’t agree with all he says or how he says it, but overall, I think he’s correct.
     
  7. I agree that circumcision has nothing to do with reducing the frequency of masturbation; that all penises will be clean if they are washed; and that natural faces, pubes and penises are more attractive.
    Thank you for listening to the presentation, so you can make informed comment on this thread. I did not enjoy his odd, theatrical style of presentation either, but I concur, "overall, I think he’s correct."
    I have highlighted this part of your comment in bold, because this is a great statement. Well said Sir!​
     
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  8. EmmyB

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    As a straight woman I've on the 'receiving end' of both types of penis. I don't agree that circumcised is hygienic if they wash. Of course guys wash. But their penises produce smegma all the time. They'd have to wash every few minutes to be even nearly as clean as the circumcised ones.

    We all have different ideas of what looks attractive but personally I like the head being uncovered all the time and the skin stretched back when it's erect. Also there's a big difference to how it feels for a woman. The circumcised penis is way less sensitive so the guy has to thrust more, you can feel it. The uncut one is basically jerking off inside his own foreskin, there's little or no movement a woman can feel.

    I can't prove that circumcised guys masturbate less but the ones I've known have. And it's hard for them to do it without lube, so guys trying to beat the habit can just get rid of that and it becomes a lot harder for them to give in to temptation.
     
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  9. This is nonsense. I cannot even remember when I found smegma under my foreskin, but it was years and years ago. I assure you that I do not wash every few minutes. Someone has sold you a myth with this one, and you believed it, haha!
    Yeah, that is why guys with no foreskin often opt for the "jackhammer technique" because they are not as sensitive.
    This is factually untrue. In fact, the normal penis assumes a greater girth because the ridged band accumulates just behind the corona, providing greater stimulation. Furthermore, the foreskin prevents the females natural lubrication to be lost, so it avoids unnecessary and unpleasant pain for her during intercourse.
    This is just a ridiculous assertion! I bet you cannot find one comment on this site that one of the strategies cut guys use is to dump their lubrication because "it becomes a lot harder for them to give in to temptation." I assume you realise that guys with surgically altered penises simply spit on them and use their own saliva as a lubricant instead. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. EmmyB

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    Sorry but ewww to both. You can't remember finding smegma under your foreskin. And cut guys spit on their dicks. Not sure which is worse.
     
  11. Women's opinion...

    Having experienced both I have to say I prefer the natural intact penis.

    Before being with an uncut guy I thought it looked weird n heard all the schmegma stories. I didn't know how to "handle" this type of equipment either. But saying all that I was always curious.

    Intact guys that are clean have clean penises! They don't smell or taste any different. Handling them is actually easier n more fun, I think. No lube required and no feeling like your hurting them by rubbing dry or sweat tacky penis skin. When giving a BJ there is more to play with too. Sex is less rough n more of a gliding motion that feels amazing. No jack rabbiting required Thank god! I truly believe the natural lubrication stays inside rather than being scooped out with the coronal ridge. Plus, once you get used to it, the intact penis is more appealing n hot! Oh ya...and completely natural n normal.

    All that being said I would think masterbation is probably more common because of ease...but what do I know!?!
     
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  12. You are not sure which is worse between:

    a) No smegma (why is that a ewww?)
    b) Cut guys spitting on their dicks (not very hygienic ironically)

    Surely b) is worse.
     
  13. Thanks for making a comment based on the facts. Everything in your main paragraph is true about a natural/normal dick.
     
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  14. Why is something natural wrong? Unhealthy? And unclean?

    This is completely B.S.

    Natural is the best... And P and M can't be stopped by a simple medical alteration! That's skirting around the main issue!
     
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  15. EmmyB

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    No, what I didn't like in option A is a guy who wasn't circumcised, yet claimed he didn't get smegma. TBH I think that's biologically impossible, so he must have a load of it and not be aware of it. Feeling nauseous just thinking of it. Which is good actually because thinking about penises right now would not be helpful...
     
  16. I honestly do not know why you think that smegma is constantly present under the foreskin. If you wash regularly, it does not appear in the adult male. In females, smegma is found between the labia, the lips which protect the vagina, and around the clitoral hood, which is at the top of the labia minora. It is more common among women than men. Smegma can be prevented by washing the genitals with warm water at least once a day. This applies to both males and females.

    Smegma in children is found particularly in young boys. This is because the penis undergoes a change where the foreskin detaches from the head of the penis. This change requires skin cells to be shed. These skin cells may form smegma. This change can occur at various ages; however, it tends to occur before the age of 5. The change may, however, occur earlier – even before birth or shortly after – or later – around the teenage years. That is what I was saying. I do not recall getting it after my teen years.
     
  17. ClaudeDuval

    ClaudeDuval Fapstronaut

    Yes, way less sensitive and more than likely he will end up using things like viagruh. And your opinion isn't the majority because most men around the world are intact(european men, latin American men, etc). I have to use lube when I have sex because there's no movement in the skin... A lot of women dislike cut penises because it's like shoving a broom stick in someone. My GF is in pain if I don't use lube... The skin is there for a reason just like women have foreskin covering the clitoris. I shouldn't have to use lube to have sex or masturbate... yet I do because my mother was an uneducated idiot. lmao American women are brainwashed to think intact penises are weird due to our fu**ed up culture of cutting infant genitals and due to the American porn industry. The rest of the world is intact... It was almost banned in some Scandinavian countries, their doctors do not recommend it, it's a way for doctors to make money and was pushed by religious fanatics and psychopaths like Dr. Kellogg who also wanted to perform "treatments" on young girls clits to desensitize them.

    Also saying "eww" about someone's natural genitals is very childish. You should act a little more mature... "Eew she has meat curtains lol I prefer women that undergo labiaplasty, it looks cleaner and I prefer it" You see how idiotic, immature, and ridiculous that sounds? How about "I prefer implanted breasts, they're even and they aren't all saggy and they aren't as sweaty... plus that's all I see in porn so that's what I've been programmed to like" ?? I can sound dumb too.
     
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  18. ClaudeDuval

    ClaudeDuval Fapstronaut

    This is absolutely true, I can't really even have sex without lube. Putting it in just causes my GF intense pain... Like shoving a brook stick in someone and I have to keep re-applying it because like you said intact penises stay lubricated when I have sex it continually dries up. I shouldn't need bottles of lube to have sex with someone or wank... it's ridiculous. It's normalized in the US due to overly religious quacks and it's normalized through the American porn industry. Men in europe don't even really understand the whole "lotion" and masturbation jokes... they don't need lubes and products for sexual activity.
     
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  19. Yea I heard the same thing from my father years ago when he hit his mid-life crisis and tried to grow his foreskin back. I'm circumcised and that hasn't stopped me from masturbating lol. I honestly think that's a myth, seeing as how any guy cut or not can still wank it.
     
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  20. I am with you @ClaudeDuval. This isn't a personal attack on @EmmyB, but the ignorance and insults must be challenged.
     
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