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NoFap led me to an escort addiction

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Paulie G., May 16, 2023.

  1. Paulie G.

    Paulie G. Fapstronaut

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    Getting a degree is just about studying and passing the exam. I can do that, no problem. I have no problem sitting in my room and studying, that's not hard. It may be boring and i sometimes didn't want to do it, but it's not hard to do. Same with working out. I can lift something heavy, that's not hard to do. Maybe sometimes i don't feel like it, but i can still do it. Those things are not hard to do, it just takes some discipline. Saying hi is not physically hard to do, it's also not time consuming like studying for a test, but mentally it's literally impossible for me. I just can't. There is just this huge psychological barrier in the way. All my childhood i have been conditioned to shut the fck up. That was literally the entire plot of my childhood in a nutshell. "Shut the hell up. be quiet. don't be so noisy. Good boy." And then the teacher "His grades are so good and he's always quiet. He's such a good boy." and the next teacher "Well, he could talk a little more with the other students, but he is the best student and he never interrupts class. He's a good boy."

    Well, yes that was under literally perfect conditions. Nobody was around. This never happens, except maybe once in like 20 years. So yes if that same situation would come up again, i would try to do it. but it literally never happens.
     
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  2. OhWhenThe

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    Ok, well I can't really say much considering I'm exactly the same, minus many of the positive traits you list.

    It seems we are both just missing something that most people have, or maybe we're just so in our heads that we overthink everything. A couple of months ago my cousins came up to visit, they were only here four days and still made more connections than I have the entire time I've been living here. One got a GF and the other got two friends that they're planning to go on holiday with. My niece got dumped by her BF and the next week she had a new one. I don't get it, I feel like everyone got the memo except me. These people aren't special either but I guess that's the point, you don't need to be, you just need to be normal.

    I actually knew [of] this other guy a few years back. He had all of the same positive attributes you listed but he would rarely leave his room and on the couple of occasions I spoke to him he was awkward as fuck ... and that's coming from me who is way, way at the far end of the awkward scale. Now I can't know for sure what exactly he spends all of his time in his room doing but I don't think it's a massive leap to think that watching porn might be involved somewhere.

    I don't know what the answer is, I wouldn't totally discount nofap as it can't just be a coincidence that so many people report similar changes and benefits. My suggestion to you would be to give nofap more of a chance but I think you are fighting the wrong villain in all of this. It's the P part that I believe is really screwing with people's minds, that's the part you need to focus on getting out of your life and by P I mean all of it, if it's a woman on a screen then it needs to go. Don't worry if you M from time to time, just cleanse your mind of the things you keep allowing yourself to see. Or you could just not do that but I'm sure you know that if nothing changes then nothing changes.

    Therapy could be the next logical step if that doesn't work.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2023
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  3. pete379

    pete379 Fapstronaut

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    Just like your new GF/wife would be very happy to have lots of sex in the beginning (usually), Then reality will set in, especially with kids in the picture. Then you had better be able to live with not a lot of sex. Theres guys on here that cant even get any kind of affection or kindness. Most marriages are not happy.
    This is the reality of a wife and kids. Its great, but in different ways.
     
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  4. I sometimes see Nofap users bragging about these inane superpowers that they accumulate after gaining a long streak, which includes but isn't limited to glowing skin, thicker hair, and my personal favourite: women suddenly finding them attractive.

    To be honest, at one point I actually fell for this nonsense, and I thought Nofap would make me attractive to women. I'm bringing this up because I truly believed (and to some degree, still believe) that the reason most of us return to PMO (even after seeing the problems it causes) is because we have no success with women.

    I have a similar issue, though it's not PMO related. I used to spend a copious amount of money on take-out food, but I wasn't doing for the food itself. I was doing it because the waitresses there were (and still are) some of the nicest people you would ever meet, and I was super lonely at the time. It was good to have a laugh and spend time with wonderful people (who can never be rude because you are still technically a customer).

    But then I saw how much I was spending, and I was shocked just like you. If I was able to develop those social interactions for free, I wouldn't need to frequent restaurants so much.

    That I believe is the problem with most of us, myself included. The reason many of us can't quit PMO and keep relapsing is for one simple reason: We don't have access to the natural means of relieving our sex drive, which is a partner.

    Obviously, we aren't criminals (at least I'm done). We don't want to force anyone to give it up, and no one for most of us is offering it voluntarily. Contrary to what some hopefuls here believe (or what some women on the forum claim), there is such thing as being too unattractive as a man, and most men in history never reproduced.

    Many of us may have found PMO as children, but we got rejected by real girls and never had a romantic encounter. Sure, married men are here,but they're a dying breed.

    So, even though this is counter productive, I have mixed feelings about paid service. On one hand, I don't want to see guys waste their money, but at the same time, I think having a strong social circle where one can feel accepted an appreciated is a big part of success as well. I guess this is what philosophers would call a necessary evil.

    That's just my opinion, though.

    I say take a break from escorts until you get your PMO under control, and divert that attention to building strong friendships if you don't already have them. Otherwise, strengthen the ones you do have, to help mitigate the emotional/social side that draws men to PMO.

    After that, since I'm pro-sex work: Perhaps if you only hired the same girl over and over, albeit more sporadically? That way you could pace yourself better and keep your finances in check. I know it's not a popular view, but from my point of view, as long as men can't get relationships, PMO will never stop, and more/younger guys will fall into it. They don't call sex work "the world's oldest profession" for no reason.
     
  5. Heypleasehelpme

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    I am also on no Fab day 37 streaks and in my mind going for escorts or calling a girl come 24 into 7 because I feel that I should try about sex experience but social anxiety stop me but I promise when I my social anxiety will go and then my birthday will come and ill have sex forsure.
     
  6. Hey man, how you been?

    Still holding out in your streak of not visiting escorts?
     

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