No porn but still fapping

You basically just have to make a firm decision to have zero-tolerance. You've already recognized that you can't really mentally separate masturbation from porn, so you will just have to stop both in order for your brain to reset itself.

 

Well if you're trying to get rid of PIED, this is just as bad as masturbation with porn, just check yourbrainonporn.com, you can read alot about this on that site. But if you're trying to not fantasize then whenver those thoughts come in to your mind you should immidiateley have an alarm go off in your head and a big screaming X go over the scene playing in your head. This isn't easy but it's not supposed to be. And another thing that has helped me alot (I started doing this yeasterday but whatever) is cold showers. They relaxe you and trains your mind to be strong and able. Porn-fantasy is also the thing that I struggle with the most, but hang in there!