No PO 90+ Days/Some Edging

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Bretto, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. Bretto

    Bretto Fapstronaut

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    No PO 90+ Days/Some Edging

    Hello all, I wanted to share my EXPERIENCES with whoever wishes to read.

    My NoFap journey began after eventually getting sick and tired of the same old routine that I'm sure most have experienced. I started by doing what I later found to be called “edging” for about a week which led me to reading up on semen retention and inevitably to NoFap. Shortly after, I began hard mode with the intention of completing the 90 days no PMO. I decided that if the opportunity for sex presented itself I wouldn't knock it back but would try not to O.

    Soon after starting the effects were felt. Mainly the lack of shame, clearer mind, little to no anxiety and more that I cant think of. It was easy to begin with. I guess it was something my body/mind had been craving for a long time. Somewhere around day 40-50 I was feeling pressure in my perineum area (called Gooch in Australia ;)) and when I took a piss it was sort of cloudy. I have no idea what was causing this but I see it as a sort of turning point as the pressure in that area didn't happen after that.

    I was going really well up to the mid 70's. If I caught myself fantasizing and would start to get erect I would tighten the PC muscles (perineum area), also known as the Mula Bandha in Hatha Yoga – a sort of “energy lock” if you will, also like a keegle I guess, anyway im sure you get the idea. I would tighten that area and focus on long slow breathes until it passed. So got to the mid 70's and had a friend visit which resulted in sex about 4 times. I explained to her what I was doing and she understood as shes into Tantra – not so much the sex side of things but the energy side of things (I dont know enough to go into more detail). It was great. As I wasnt into it to O it made it more about her, we were both so deep into the moment which from a spiritual side of things was amazing. There was no shame, no guilt, not trying to live out any fanasy, not trying to just get a load off – just being in the moment, feeling each other, experiencing the different sensations, breathing, without any judgements or attachments – just being. Everything down stairs was in perfect working order as well, if I felt an O coming on I would slow down and tighten the PC muscles as described before. For the days she was here my energy levels felt like they had shot right up, even after she left I was on a high.



    It was around this time that I started edging again. It only took one time to get into it again. The old “i've already done it once today I will start fresh tomorrow”. The first few days I reckon I could have O'd in less than 10 strokes it was real sensitive. I read up on edging a little more and the majority of what I read said that its not good. Dopamine levels stay up longer etc. but at the time it didnt bother me. For me nothing had changed, I still felt the positive effects of NoFap (which is ironic) and I had enough self control to stop before O. There was still days at a time where I wouldnt M at all though – I was still determined to do 90 days no PO.

    So 90 days passed and soon after, after reading up a bit on tantric sex, I experienced 2 O's in one night without ejaculation while M'ing. This was achieved by tightening the PC muscles in that tiny window of time between the start of the O and the start of the ejaculation. I'd say the first one was about 50% of a normal O and the second about 80%. It was a pretty good experience.

    A day or two after, I had sex and decided I would O. It was good, but it wasn't like some insane mega O that i've never felt before. The following day I had an MO and it was lame – it was an anticlimax haha. I would describe it like this: you drive a shit car and then get given a Ferrari that you drive all the time but one day you decide to go back and drive the shit car for old times sake and it is really underwhelming compared to the Ferrari! I am referring to MO as the shit car not the girl the night before, she is lovely.

    So that is where I am at, at the moment. I have no regrets with anything I have done along the way. To me it has all been about the experience, trying something different and looking inside to see how my body/mind responds to it without any attachment to the outcome e.g if I had sex and felt terrible the next day it is still something I have experienced for myself. Also after waking up and having an MO the other morning I was feeling more anxiety than I usually would throughout the day, I have no regrets doing it and I dont feel bad about breaking the streak, I have learned from it. A whole world has opened up for me with so many opportunities to go deeper and experience so many new things.

    So where now?

    For now I am going to go another 30 days no PMO with no fantasizing or sex. Eventually I will try 30 days monk mode – no PMO, social media, alcohol – avoid all the vices! Then potentially 90 days.

    I will finish by summarizing my situation, experiences and personal suggestions for next time:


    · I'm 31, PMO for 15 or so year, wasn't terribly addicted to P and have 0 cravings to watch it again



    · Even though I did, I would not recommend edging for few reasons. 1) Dopamine levels. 2) The huge potential for relapse and; 3) The fantasizing that comes with M. I believe this to be the biggest issue. It is a craving and spiritually speaking “All cravings are the mind seeking salvation or fulfillment in external things and in the future as a substitute for the joy of Being” - Eckhart Tolle


    · I also, along with many others, found meditation to help massively. Before work for 20 minutes was a real nice start to the day. Sometimes after work, after a big day, just sitting there in complete peace was the best.

    · It might be an unpopular opinion but I dont believe that NoFap gives you super powers. Personally I saw it as more removing the shit that I didnt need to bring you closer to my more natural self. E.g instead of “getting” more confident I “lose” anxiety. I see the whole superpowers idea as an ego boost. I read once “yoga is 90% waste removal” - that's what NoFap is to me.

    · I love the feeling of waking up every morning knowing im the exact same person. I'm not going to have an off day which I would experience quite frequently with PMO


    · IMO Meditation, yoga, cold showers and reading books about living in the present go amazingly well with a reboot. I'd suggest The Power of Now, The Way of The Peaceful Warrior, The Art of Meditiation and The Way of The Superior Man. I was on a yoga teacher trainer course for a month and wasn't doing NoFap at the time but can only imagine how it would have enhanced the experience!

    · When cravings arise I find so much power in stopping what i'm and “looking” at the craving and trying to feel it if that makes sense, instead of ignoring it just looking straight at it to see what it is that is making me feel that way. Is it a sense that i'm lacking something? Am I bored? And then attempting to transmute that energy through diaphragm breathing. It's these times that I believe so much progress in self discipline and self knowledge are made.

    · I guess i'm on a journey to enlightenment. If you had the option (which you do) to feel intense joy all the time or feel a depressed, anxious mess constantly, which would you chose? I'm still far off it but NoFap is greatly assisting me discover my inner self.

    · I wish all of you the best of luck with your NoFap Journeys. You're part of a tiny percentage of the world that is waking up! So much love for you all!
     
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  3. Thank you @Bretto! your post is truly inspiring! I agree with a lot of stuff you said, I think the "superpowers" are more like a placebo effect or something. Thank you very much for sharing your experiences with us!