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No change, 3 months no PMO

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by yawhatever, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    I've gone over 3 months no PMO. Ok a few times PM but no O and I have had zero benefits except lower libido. I think y'all are experiencing a placebo effect! I don't have more energy, more confidence, nothing.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2015
  2. Namekian23

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    I think it's more than just no PMO in order to get benefits bro. How's your lifestyle, has that changed? This includes your health, the people in your social life, your job, school, etc. Has that improved or has gotten worse? I actually noticed a few benefits that was both physical and mental when I abstained from no PMO for 39 days, but most importantly, I was proud of myself. Just ask the other guys, I'm sure they know. Remember that no PMO means absolutely no PMO! That also means that if there's PM, it doesn't count. And another thing, I'm just a little puzzled as to why you said you didn't PMO for 3 months when your join date was January of this year.
     
  3. Monster Carrot

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    I am guessing he has been avoiding PMO before joining NoFap.

    I don't know what kind of "benefits" you are hoping for, but it could be that you are expecting too much from NoFap, or that you are doing it for the wrong reasons. I know that most people do start to feel physically changed after a while, which is what you are probably asking about. Normally after 3 months I would think the benefits would start to show themselves, but it depends on your individual situation. For instance, have you been a hardcore P addict for like 20 years or just a casual user for a while? People reboot in different ways and with different results.
     
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  4. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    I was about a 2 to 3x per week PMOer since the age of 13. I just thought I'd see if there would be any positive change if I abstained from PMO and I have abstained for about 3 months.. I checked P a handful of times for a few minutes, but I wasn't really into it.. Anyway I am 100% sure that say 5 x 5 minutes of P out of 3.5 months is not going to skew results. I just wanted people to know it's pretty much a placebo effect that they are experiencing. I didn't have huge expectations at all. I just wanted to dispel the noFap mythology that seems to exist.
     
  5. Nofapnoo

    Nofapnoo Fapstronaut

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    Bro did you have any sex or multiple wet dreams during these three months?
     
  6. _Cam_

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    How much is a few times?
     
  7. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    No I did not. No sex, no wet dreams.
     
  8. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    Maybe in total 3 hrs P watching, 10 mins M.
     
  9. _Cam_

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    Okay. What kind of benefits were you expecting?
     
  10. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    I wasn't particularly expecting any benefits- the nofap community's zeal extolling numerable miraculous benefits needs to be debunked as placebo effect.
    More confidence, energy, psychological and physical benefits are basic components of the noFap community's mythology.
     
  11. ruso

    ruso Fapstronaut

    Have you not seen the Success Story section? I can assure you that I have more confidence, more energy, a clearer mind. If it's myth then awesome, cause I am living it. And what honestly isn't a myth. What we refer to as FACTS get disproven all the time. Don't be frustrated because you relapsed after watching 3 Hours of porn.

    And honestly what is to debunk??????????????? I said to a member here who was calling this the "NoFap doctrine" that this is NOT a doctrine. This is NOT a get-out-of-your-responsiblities-YOULL-BE-EXPERIENCING-JOY-24/7 free card. This is a damn experiment. A really really rough experiment for many. And MANY have had success with it.

    You want to HELP this community and support your point? Make polls asking members if they have: gotten rid of their ED, gained confidence (with examples), experienced psychological benefits (with examples), etc. AND then form your own conclusions. Though it's all there in the success stories.

    And there is no absolutes or perfection with anything you follow or experience. Life is dynamic as hell. But shit, based on the only evidence we got (success stories) give it more of a shot then relapsing in 90 days.

    Lastly, put some logic into your way of thinking man. DO you really think that stopping 2-3 hours of porn watching (my case), HAS NO impact on day to day activities? Add up the time gained. -- And that's just one reason to try this.

    If you are trolling, kudos, brilliant. I usually don't give in.
     
  12. _Cam_

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    1. Confidence: a feeling of self-assurance arising from one's appreciation of one's own abilities or qualities.

    1. As one frees them-self from the reliance of PMO. They gain self-worth. They begin to feel better about their ability to overcome struggles. This is a form of confidence.

    2. Energy: the strength and vitality required for sustained physical or mental activity.

    2. This can be improved from several different variables. For example, a person that spends say 1 to 2 hours each night PMOing before they go to sleep is losing out on sleep. Sleep affects our energy levels. Another example, PMOing, specifically O uses resources in the body that require energy to create again. If one isn't PMOing less of these resources would, in theory, have to be created continuously. Also, Napoleon Hill talks about sex transmutation, which is the transfer of sexual energy into another task. So if one isn't PMOing this sexual energy must, in theory go somewhere as the first law of thermodynamics states.

    3. Psychological: of, affecting, or arising in the mind; related to the mental and emotional state of a person.

    3. A person that PMOs gradually becomes desensitized to real sexual stimulation. This extends even further than physical touch. Porn specifically has a way of causing us to objectify people as sexual objects rather than living beings. As we become re-sensitized, we begin to see people as more than sexual stimulation. I and others have for instance, experienced a recognition of the natural beauty of women. Picture this as feeling like you could just stare into a woman's eyes and feel satisfied.

    4. Physical: of or relating to the body as opposed to the mind.

    4. This one is a little more tricky and indirect compared to the other benefits listed. For example, take someone that lifts weights. When they abstain from PMO, they feel better about themselves. They have more energy. Thus they are more likely to workout. This in turn will lead overtime, to a better or stronger, physique. Also, refraining from an addiction tends to improve a person's ability to refrain from other potential addictions or habits. So for example, a person who abstains from PMOing might find it easier to stick with a diet. This in turn can lead to a loss or gain of weight, depending on that person's goals.
    The key here is that the physical benefits are more indirect and usually take longer to recognize compared to the other benefits.


    I hope this helps in some way.





    P.S. Also, to agree with ruso's post just above. Anecdotal accounts, while they may not be proven as truth, do hold meaning. Especially when the anecdotal accounts report patterns and consistencies within them; as has been seen, if you look thoroughly for them.
     
  13. shikhar

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    Bro, are you experiencing low confidence, low self esteem or poor health after abstaining?

    It could have happened is that since you were not very much into PMO before joining NoFap, you may not feel the benefits coming as intensely. Most of the guys here have been addicted to PMO, so when they quit it 'cold turkey', they see the changes happening within themselves.

    Just an idea.
     
  14. ###

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    I don't recall that things got incredibly better for me at 90 days. At 3-4 months, the compulsion to PMO was greatly lessened, but a more positive mindset I think may have taken around 6 months for me.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2015
  15. nomo

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    For me one of the biggest benefits would be as S.K. say's - reducing the compulsion to PMO. PMO is such a time-waste and life drain. Anyone's life would be improved simply by doing less PMO or zero PMO and finding other positive activities to do to fill the void. It's a productivity gain and with that other benefits should appear, but as most agree - there needs to be other changes in one's life besides no PMO.

    Good luck my friends with the no PMO journey.
     
  16. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    No I am not trolling. And why is it that people in this forum can't f-ing read? I watched maybe 3 hrs porn TOTAL in the last 3.5 months- that is hardly going to have a significant effect. Second I don't deny people experience positive effects- the myth is that it's all due to stopping PMO.. People get positive effects via the placebo effect. If it was scientific, I should have some positive effect from abstaining from PMO for 3.5 months, but it hasn't affected my confidence or my given me more energy.


     
  17. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    @nomo Hardly - 3 hrs total in 3 months is nothing.
     
  18. paspas

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    For some reason I doubt your story. First it went from P & M ing a few times to P for 5 times 5mins all the way to P for 3 hours total. You are right its not substantial and I nor anyone else on this forum can assess your situation because there are innumerable factors. It is unfortunate you did not experience any positive effects.

    However the scientific facts (watch some youtube clips) point that there are benefits for people who are addicted/heavy porn users. Innumerable people have benefited from quitting porn. I can tell you with absolute certainty it is not placebo as it has had many positives in the short term even though I'm not even close to healed (PIED, low libido).

    If you want to yell placebo fine, but that doesn't change the facts. Once again it is unfortunate you are still experiencing problems, consider seeing a physician to get yourself further advice if you think your situation is a problem.

    edit: (it doesn't help your case that the title of this topic is "3 months no pmo" and you didn't make it past the first post without reversing that claim)
     
  19. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    @_Cam_ thanks for your reply to my post.. It is very reasonable.. Makes sense.. I just have not experienced any very noticeable benefits after abstaining for 3.5 months...

     
  20. yawhatever

    yawhatever Fapstronaut

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    @Shikhar - good point.. It could be that. And yes I do experience periods of low self esteem, low confidence, low energy after abstaining.
     

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