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Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by Dakota12, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Dakota12

    Dakota12 Fapstronaut

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    Hello,

    This is my second introduction post. I deleted my first one because I conveyed too much personal info. My mistake.... story of my life. I have been struggled with PM for over 30 years. What started out as an average teenage boy looking at playboy, hustler, high society etc. just ended up manifesting over the years. Once the internet was launched into our homes back in the early to mid 90's it became to easy to search and click for multiple unlimited images and videos. Wow like a kid in a candy store. I have been to numerous therapists regarding my PM but none were ever able to help or I just didn't want the help. Unfortunately there has never been a lot of resources for this type of thing. It wasn't until last week 1/12/17 that I moved out due to my daughter and wife's wishes because of my use of pornography, masturbation, manipulation and lies. This has been a broken record for the 20 years that my wife and I have been married. My daughter found this community and suggested it to me. I had no idea this place existed as well as others nowadays. So here I am. Last night I had a dream that I was masturbating. I rationalized it in the dream and had a wet dream. I woke up in shame and fear that I had done it again but thank god it was just a dream. I told my wife this morning in shame. I thought she was going to be mad or hurt but for the first time I opened up with honesty and she was really understanding. I am glad to be here!
     
  2. i_wanna_get_better1

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    Welcome to the forum. It's not often that people are told that they are being TOO open with their introduction. My story almost turned out like yours. I'm 43 and married. Over a year ago my wife threatened to move out and take our children with her if I didn't address my problem. That was my rock bottom moment that made me (forced me) to seek treatment. I too had gone to a therapist about my problem many years ago but they treated me for an OCD instead of an addiction and my treatment fell apart... plus the fact that my heart wasn't ready to change yet. Now I am over 1 year clean in part due to this community.

    This problem goes so deep that it penetrates our subconscious and unconscious mind. I continue to have porn view dreams, masturbation dreams, dreams where my porn is discovered or I'm hiding it. Having a dream like this or having wet dream is not a relapse... it is not the same as PMO. It's the brain's way of processing issues that are just below the surface. We have plenty of things to feel shameful about but what you do in your dreams is largely out of your control. If your wife requires that level of honesty then comply and talk about it.

    One other reminder... women often say that the lies and deceit are worse than the porn itself. Definitely work on the porn addiction but also keep the goal in mind to be a man of integrity, honesty, and trustworthiness. Cutting the porn out of your life heals you... working on being a better man will heal your relationship. I wish you success on your journey.
     
  3. Shin Iu

    Shin Iu Fapstronaut

    Welcome and appreciate your stories!
    Also, you should be appreciating your families support and helps!
    I am so glad that they understand you and would help you through it!
    One of the Best of the best advice are making notes from what you learnt from here! Plz write down all you failure and past as well on your notes books and triggers of porn or masturbating!
    The more you understand, and the quicker you could quite, and the healthier you would become!
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  4. Ayjaydubya

    Ayjaydubya Fapstronaut

    Welcome to NoFap. I hope you find the community helpful. I'm relatively new, but it has already been a big help for me.
     
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  5. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    Welcome to NoFap where you are amongst friends who are here to encourage you and not judge you.
     
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  6. Dakota12

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    Thank you for the warm welcome. It is so nice to have support in this from others with the same issues. People who can truly relate. This is an amazing place!
     
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  7. Dakota12

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    Thank you i_wanna_get_better1 for sharing your story. It is a pleasure to meet you. Your encouraging words of advice really moved me and I find it so amazing that you and I have such parallel stories. Hat's off to you for a year in since the reboot. That is awesome! I want to be able to do that.
     
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  8. Dakota12

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    Thanks D.J.! This is the right place.
     
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  9. Dakota12

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    Nice to meet you Ayjaydubya! So happy to see you doing so well with the help of this community. I really feel like I am already part of a new family that really cares and does not minimize my compulsions. I have never been able to tell another close friend about my PMO without them minimizing it or just plain laughing like it is normal.
     
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  10. Dakota12

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    Thank you Shin lu!
     
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  11. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    What are your current strategies for combating the enemy called PMO?
     
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  12. Ayjaydubya

    Ayjaydubya Fapstronaut

    I can relate to that. Many people seem to think: no big deal. For some it may not be an addiction/compulsion so it isn't a big deal.
     
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  13. Dakota12

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    This might sound ignorant but I am leaning heavy on this community to start. I really have no game plan at this point. I am living this day by day. I plan to use this community as a tool to help me through those urges. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  14. D . J .

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  15. Ayjaydubya

    Ayjaydubya Fapstronaut

    Having an accountability partner and being accountable on here have helped me a lot.
     
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  16. Hi @Dakota12 , welcome to NoFap
    It is a big step if you can understand what is triggering your urges, because this will allow you to be awake and kill those urges as soon as they appear.

    I recommend you to create your own "Emergency Toolbox" with readings that can be handy to read when you start feeling urges to screw up.
    I can share this post with you with my own Emergency Toolbox, it helped me a lot during the first few months, i had them in my cell and read them every time I started falling down:

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...y-first-320-days-of-reboot.62938/#post-473978

    I wrote some tips in this post that perhaps will help you too:

    http://NoFap.com/forum/index.php?threads/tips-that-helped-me-to-start-my-reboot.46617/#post-330318
    You can watch some interesting videos which are also very helpful in this post:
    http://nofap.com/forum/index.php?th...t-help-me-a-lot-during-my-reboot.39774/page-2

    I also suggest you to read "Breaking the Cycle" by George Collins, it is a must-read if you are serious about getting rid of this addiction.

    Last but not least, I would strongly recommend you to take the NoFap Academy course if you can afford it. The course is great but the best value are the weekly video calls with @alexander (the creator of NoFap and NoFap Academy) and Mark Queppet, where you can chat with them in real life and listen to other guys's stories and problems too.

    I hope that all this helps you to fight this shitty addiction.
    Let's keep on fighting

    Fercho
     
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  17. Carl Spackler

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    So sorry about the current state of your family. I hope that you can get the traction needed to mend your relationships. Based on what you typed in your original post, it's obvious that both your wife and daughter love you. Is there a chance that you could ever reach reconciliation?

    I think there are a lot of us here, me included, that will need to show an immense amount of consistency and follow through, over a long period of time, in order to gain back the trust we lost from our loved ones.

    Are you currently on a no PMO streak of any kind?

    My dreams have been incredibly vivid since about day 3 (I'm on day 21 as of this post). Some of my dreams are sex related. One of my dreams was about me just walking around town, leaking from my donger. That seemed to go on for a very long time. When I woke up, I checked all over the house, thinking I might have left a puddle somewhere.

    Last night, my dream centered around a very tiny, little old lady who was trying to parallel park her car. All I could do was watch through her car window. She was so small that her head didn't go but half way up on the steering wheel. I haven't a clue what that dream "meant," but it definitely was not a sex dream, thank God!

    I've also had a few dreams that left me feeling quite devastated when I awoke, taking me all day to shake the feeling. I think this is all normal and it's "OK." To have dreams about masturbation and P and such is actually not surprising at all. We've pounded it into our psyche for so long. It's going to take a while to get it all out, and it's probably really GOOD that it's coming out... it's part of the healing process.

    Man I type a lot when I post on this message board. Hope you made it this far in my post. :D

    Keep on keepin' on! You CAN DO IT!
     
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  18. Dakota12

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    Thanks Carl! It has been an extremely rough road for my family in this 22 year shit storm of manipulation and lies. This double life I have been living has done irreparable damage to my wife and daughter. I consider myself lucky to even be sitting here with them after what I have done. I am currently on day 54 PMO free!

    I have spent a little over 30 years of my life Fappin'. Throughout those years the desire to achieve just a bit more of a Dopamine blast than the last has been a dangerous road. In search of something better than the last. Before I knew it I was spending an awful lot of time and wasted energy on looking for that next best thing. Unfortunately there is no next best thing. Just a constant feedback loop of fantasy, ritualization, compulsive sexual behavior and shame. Over and over and over and over and over again. Damn!!

    I need to do a better job recognizing my triggers. Whether it be stress, alcohol, my dysfunctional family, anxiety, exhaustion etc. From I have really been making some hard changes (but with multiple relapses) since 2007. The previous 12 years with my wife I rationalized that it was normal and it was condoned by many friends and family. I didn't feel that I had a problem because of the enabling from everyone around me. The only one that had a problem with it was my wife, the one person who truly cares about me. Why couldn't I have listened to her? Probably because I didn't want to. I liked the porn too much. I wanted to objectify the hottest babe I could find on the internet and blow my load. This was pretty constant from 1999 to 2007.

    When 2007 hit this was the year I realized that I was stepping over the line a bit. I was working at job that was one hour away from home and equated to 70 hours a week. I spent a lot of time on the road and was running out of places to really get my jack on. I also got the first generation iPhone, yikes! PORN in the palm of your hands, no pun intended. Well "Why don't we do it on the road"!!! Yeah I was jacking it on the road daily, sometimes twice on the way home to stay awake. This went on for probably 8 months until I busted for porn by my wife again. Thank god because I believe if I hadn't gotten caught when I did I probably would have killed some innocent person on the road due to my deplorable binge behavior. God there would be mornings were I would almost drive off the road into a ditch because I was so flooded with dopamine. I confided all of this information with my wife and retried therapy again for the third time. To no avail I was back at it (no more road PMO) again in a few months.

    My wife has been such a saint through all of this and I feel so fucking awful and disgusting for the hurt that I have caused her. One would say "Then why do you do it"? Well isn't that the million dollar question. I really struggle with my guilt in all of this. My guilt has been a trigger for me and I know that. I just have to stay strong for a longer period of time. Unfortunately I have never been able to refuse it for one whole year since I started at the age of nine. The longest I have made it is 6 months and that honestly is what scares me the most and I know that fear is a trigger as well so I have to be mindful of that.

    I have had some pretty vivid sex dreams like you too Carl. I had a wet dream about a week and half ago and I was masturbating in the dream. I was even rationalizing masturbating and contemplating "EDGING" so that I wouldn't feel bad, but I just couldn't hold off and just blew. Whoa! I woke up and thought "holy shit" I rationalized it and even thought of edging in my dream. Man this beast has it claws sunk deep. I felt really bad again and was told that this is not a relapse here in the NoFap community by i_wanna_get_better1. I have to say that this 54 days was easier than the previous 6 month stint. I know that the Dopamine Devil is around the corner and will try to drag me in. I just have to keep myself calm and in the now and realize reality not fantasy. I have control over my immediate reality, my inner being, the now, not some fucking fantasy. There is so much more but this is what I have for now. Thank you Carl and thank you everyone out there in the NoFap community. I love you all.
     
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    Thank you for all the post here, figuring out the trigger is certainly helpful.
     
  20. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    Congratulations on your progress!
     
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