This form of therapy has been shown to be as effective in helping people with mental health issues as being medicated or healthy changes to diet and exercise. And as effective as regular therapy sessions in book form or person. It requires a lot of writing and reading and honesty.
He's got a point though. I'm not against therapy but people do need to interact with people outside the therapist office, which is why I kind of preach in person recovery meetings. But I'm not gonna lie I can't stand all of them, but I also know not to expect that much and it's the best bet as far as I can tell.
I personally think in person therapy is a waste of money, but bibliotherapy costs nothing if you pirate the book.
Therapy based on making changes in your life and outlook as opposed to paying someone to pretend to be your friend like conventional therapyl.
There's that. And if you go to in person therapy after you got some tools already. I was talking about open recovery meetings that wouldn't cost anything or is donation based, and in a way it's a kind of bibliotherapy since they all have a book and you can work on it with other people. Again not like it's going to be the best experience but since it's free and there's a lot of people there's a decent chance somewhere down the line.
You're making excuses. Maybe you want to stay weak for the rest of your life. One example is buying a wrist counter like golfers use to keep track of their strokes during a game and adding a count every time you have a negative thought. Who the fuck can't do that?
12 steps? Yeah, they're shown to work decently. They've got some good community aspects too. Definitely there are worse ways to get free coffee.
What good would that accomplish? So I'd come up with something like 300 negative thoughts in a day. How does that help?
They explain in the book. Basically becoming aware of negative thoughts and tracking them makes them happen less often over a period of time.
12 Step isn't the only one around these days, there are other models but smaller groups. The community aspect is the main thing, I think traditionally people understand that you might need to be left alone a while and it's not going to be like they try to get you to join something, but it's just open to people to show up and get involved to whatever extent they want.
You may have to look around for the right meetings though. One thing about online is you're not going to limited to your geographical area and someone can just lurk and check them out. It will take time though and since they read a script it can be like that Fight Club scene ".. his name is Robert Paulson.." but there's actually people being real, you just have to look a bit.
I agree dopamine isn’t bad which is why I said “ dopamine high”, because porn is a super stimulus. However, you can still get that high from real people. You may not be able to recreate it at the same speed/amount as porn but there are other ways to escalate. Ie from regular hookers to trans, or multiple partners, or just paying someone to do things that a partner might be unwilling to do. Please go read the posts. Many are broke because of being addicted to hookers, massage parlors, being broke doesn’t keep you from getting addicted. It only makes it harder to feed your addiction.
You keep stating this as if it proves some kind of point that a hooker addiction isn't worse than a porn addiction. You have taken something and reduced it to the most basic of technicalities in order to rationalize your position. Brain "rewiring" isn't the only thing that dictates the severity of an addiction. Most people, most sane people, judge addiction severity based on the negative impact it has on others, no simply the addict themselves. But not you, no, you graduate from watching people have sex to USING people for sex. That is NOT progress. That is NOT better. Using an actual human being as a commodity is horrible and when you do it habitually, you become less empathetic and even more incapable of connecting with real human beings on a meaningful level. That I even have to mention this bit of common sense to you on a forum is beyond scary.
You sound like you are smart with money and wouldn't be the type to allow yourself to spend all of your savings on hookers. Also, there is this idea on here that getting a hooker is "using" her. But people are used all the time at regular jobs, too. Dang, at my job today I hated being there. Being a sex worker may actually be more satisfying and fulfilling than working at some crappy job. Think about all the people who break their backs doing hard labor. Or all the people who work 50 hours or more a week just to get by. Having sex for money seems like actually LESS work than doing some other job. No wonder so many people get into the OnlyFans and sex industry. Makes sense from a purely logical perspective. You are also in conversation with people on here who come from a Christian perspective, or some other religious based perspective that basically sees sex as ONLY between two people who love each other and are in a committed relationship. There are also other ways of viewing sex, such as purely for fun, or for a type of healing. Basically, there seem to be a clash of perspectives regarding sex on NoFap, but that is completely normal and expected. For myself, I really am unsure of exactly what I believe right now. I can see the Christian perspective, and see the truth in the Christian ideal of love/marriage/sex. But I can also see other possible perspectives on sex, such as to give people a sense of joy, of escape from the harshness of real life, and even sex as a way to increase health. I am undecided on religious belief right now, and have been for a while now. I also think many people just regurgitate what they have been taught or grown up with regarding religion/sex/belief systems. It is very understandable and I don't blame them at all. You seem to talk about visiting an escort as a way to get your mind thinking in the right direction. Perhaps one escort a month, as something to look forward to, could be good. But again, I really have no clue to what the truth is. But I don't think you are coming from a bad perspective like some of the other people who have responded on here. But I also agree that a hooker won't give a lasting satisfaction like a real connection with a "civilian" woman would. And that feeling of inner warmth from a "real woman" could better help you heal. But then again, not all guys have access to a real woman who they would actually like enough to be in a committed relationship with. I think people don't realize this. I know for myself in the past, there have been a lot of girls that wanted to date me... But I just wasn't that physically attracted to them. Maybe for sex a few times could be fun... but not long term. And then girls I was physically attracted to, they wouldn't want to hang out with me after having sex once or twice. So being stuck in this "inbetween" thing is what causes my PMO addiction. Because I don't want to settle for less
