Morality and Spirituality Discussions

What would you say is the need for morals? Why do we need to be polite, even more than that, whats to stop anyone from murdering you and taking everything you have? I know that's a little extreme, but thoughts?

 

"Sensible people try to avoid such pain and suffering whenever they are convinced they can so that is where I believe the roots of morality began and evolved from."

But do you not find that in this modern world, doing the moraly right thing can cause pain and suffering? Take for instance this sight. Married men come here to break the addiction of P. Now the moral thing to do is to be honest and not lie about the problem whith your partner, this would be moraly correct, however it would cause pain and suffering to both parties.

As far as happiness, being moraly correct does not always bring happiness, maybe fulfilment, but somethings we must do sometimes are not enjoyed. unfortunantly the public "sense" of morals is often seen when the public "congregates", for example, Fergusen, Greece, Egypt, etc. When anonymity of a mass crowd is involved generally morals are disregarded. This is when a thing such as character is revealed. it shows itself when no one is looking. I believe the two to go hand in hand. Sometimes the right thing to do is not the easy thing to do. I dont mean to press my opinions, im just making conversation =)

 

Interesting thought =) Personally my belief about morals is based on my belief in a one true God. If all we are is carbon waiting to expire, then someone would have a different view. Morals and character are so much more than being nice and making happy to me. Its true what you said though, in reality there is no way to fulfill another persons expectations. We always come up short because we are human. We do the best with what we are given. we make choices and consequences are returned. There must be absolutes in life or everything would slowly drift away. Nature does not have morals, nature is programmed. Nature takes without remorse, it survives or dies. I view myself and humans different from nature due to my belief of a soul. We struggle against it, having to choose the easy path of self fulfillment or the path of self denial. Morals then become more than a salve to ease pain. They become absolutes set by my Creator. The great aspect of this is free will. We can choose our own path. The path we choose and our decisions, make and change our character and morals. With those decisions, the consequences change as well. It all depends on what you base them on and how valuable they are to you.

 

You have to ask what would the world be like if every single person acted that way? That's why just about every religion in the world has a version of the golden rule. It's why-ideally- our laws inforce fairness.

 

All morals come from God, but some are more human based than God based and thus easier for diverse socities to adopt (ie killing is bad).
More specific spiritual ones (sexual purity, respect for the name of God and Christ) are associated with specific religions and not so widely accepted
Morals and commandments exist for our happiness and improvement as spiritual beings. Even when it's tough its good to know its for our own good.

 

Morality is how reality functions. Spirituality is psych-ology.