Lose lose situation

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by tmcgowan123, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. tmcgowan123

    tmcgowan123 New Fapstronaut

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    I am not here to stop masturbating. I believe a build up of testosterone isn't good for my body, I also won't be giving up sex.

    My wife always hated the fact that I watched pornography, but she also knew how poisonous it is. It lead me to crave sexual contact at all times of the day. It got so bad that I began asking my wife to make a change in the bedroom that I didn't care what kind of change it was. I told her I believed that involving a 3rd person could improve our life all around, but I just wanted sex. Time and time she refused me, and it lead to me seeking attention from someone else. I began trying to have an erotic conversation with a former friend who moved out of state. I came semi clean to my wife (half truth). When my wife began digging through our phone records about the things I told her she discovered that I hadn't been honest. Now I'm on the brink of losing her, all because I can't seem to control my actions.

    After this happened I swore to her that I would give up porn for at least 2 weeks. After long consideration though I decided I'm just going to give it up for good, and that is what lead me to this group. Now I've learned how to block pornography from my smartphone (which is the only place I ever watched porn) and am now 2 days sober.

    I hope that this journey will decrease the amount of times I have the desire to masturbate along with helping my personal life. I don't want to be the bad guy anymore.

    Thanks for reading
     
  2. jbastoniv

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  3. Limeaid

    Limeaid Guest

    Yes the masturbation and porn fuels the horniness. It's like a sexual saturation and it will ease off as your normal libido returns. Addictions have a way of creating more need for the addict.
     
  4. The Eleven

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    I do not believe there is any merit to the idea that stopping M leads to a build up of testosterone in the body, or that such a build up would be bad for you if it actually did happen. Frankly, the damage we do to ourselves -- and others -- by PMO is much worse than any damage that might result from stopping PMO.

    It's great that you've stopped P. But if you want to completely reboot, you're going to need to get a grip on your MO (no pun intended).
     
  5. jbastoniv

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    I agree with Eleven, you have to stop PMO, PME, and MO. If you are horny then go out, start a relationship and have PIV to O! That's what we are suppose to do and abstaining will motivate you pretty damn quickly.
     
  6. tmcgowan123

    tmcgowan123 New Fapstronaut

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    I truly appreciate all the advice given. But the matter at hand isn't so much as I have sexual tension or anything. I get bored, and that's what lead to me watching P and lead to excessive masturbation. I feel if I quit watching porn then over time my masturbation levels will decrease as well, and so far they have. It used to be i would MO 2-3 times a day. Now I am down to once a day since I quit P on saturday the 14th of march. My goal is to decrease it to 2-3 times a week. I have a wife, but our sex life hasn't been optimal, but that's my fault for making sex an uncomfortable thing.
    For those who say masturbation is wrong or harmful to the body then I'm sorry but we are in disagreement. I'm 21, have a 2 year old, work full time, go to school full time, and am building a house. I don't get a lot of free time to do the things I like to reduce stress, and I know for a genuine fact that masturbation is a stress reducer and doesn't take a lot of time to perform.
     
  7. jbastoniv

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    I used to think the same as you, for 35 years! If you want your sex life to improve with you wife, and I guarantee it will (and not just your sex life) then try it, NO PMO, PME, or MO for 90 days. Have all of the PIV to O with you wife that the two of you can handle and manage to do. I do not believe that MO, in itself is bad or unnatural, but I will say from experience, if you are married you are cheating your wife by doing so. Your are killing your motivation to have PIV with her every time you MO! I know it is scary giving up the one thing you have total control over, pleasuring yourself. But you are robbing your wife of her true affection from you, your desire for her. Please try, you will not be disappointed. It will take some time, but in a relativity short time you will see HUGE improvements. And yes, PIV is way better than MO once you get rebooted.

    You can do it, at least give it a try!
     
  8. kingucla

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    stay strong brother we are with you
     
  9. tmcgowan123

    tmcgowan123 New Fapstronaut

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    I'm not 100% sure what PIV is but I have a feeling it's sex. You don't even know. She encourages me to MO. I'm really not killing anything by doing it either. I'm ready to go at a moments notice. She knows just how much I desire her, but the feeling isn't mutual.
     
  10. jbastoniv

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    PIV is Penis in Vagina (regular sex between a man and woman). The concept is that the hormones that are released via PIV to O is different that MO or any other form of O. Studies have shown that the levels and types of hormones and endorphins released are very different.

    I say try it and see, I bet she will get interested, things really do change, your attitude, confidence, maybe even your pheromones, but things do change. Even if it is the placebo effect, who cares as long as it works. When you abstain from PMO, PME, and MO you also start to do nice things for her, love making start far outside the bedroom. Women's arousal is not just a physical switch like with men. They need to feel wanted, loved, and secure before they will be aroused. If you just use her to get off, well, she'll feel that.

    Good luck and give it a real try, it can't hurt.