Kissing a girl that doesn't like you back is so vain

Just for all the people coming across this thread: @VirginWarrior is clearly a troll. If you take a look at his most recent posts and threads, you'll notice he's spitting out trash on purpose to get attention. So, take his stuff with a grain of salt.

 

I agree with first paragraph, but disagree with the second. You know for some people waiting for marriage is a thing.

 

There are people who are true to their values.

 

No, saints are characters in religious scripture and people the pope likes. But there are people who abstain from sex until marriage.

 

But still they are out there. It is a striking fact of life that our own consciousness is not the center of the universe. There are other entities out there acting independently from you. They exist even if you've never confirmed their existence.

 

Yes. I guess. As long as it isn't the cause of some sort of religious repression.

 

Yes it could prove challenging. Unless you're in some sort of religious community where that is the social norm.

 

I'm sorry what's "LTR"?

 

I see.

 

I am noticing you saing that pre marital sex is a mandatory requirement again on this forum. I guess this is a norm among secular people, but can't two consenting people do that? I know how it usually is but many major christian denominations are still encouraging waiting for marriage.

 

I think that is exactly what was said in the comment that you quoted. Christians do it. But if you are secular this isn't an option if you want to fast-track the process.