Journaling my story... out into the void...

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  1. strawbb4

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    I am new to all this. Not to journaling. It is something I have done most of my life. I am new to this genre. I wrote this a couple of days ago, just didnt know what to do with it. So here it goes.....

    21 days since DDay,


    I am trying to live my life with Joy and Grace. It is my motto. Seek out Joy and meet challenges with grace. This is not an easy task.


    21 days ago my husband came home from a solo trip to Miami to our son’s wedding. I could not go because I was ill. Before the trip I had prepared myself for something to go wrong. I thought for sure my husband was going to cheat on me. Things had not been going well for years. I would say it was a slow decline over the past 8 or so years. It’s hard to put my finger on when things changed. I was in a daze back then. My eldest daughter had passed away from an opioid overdose 11 years ago July. I was busy focusing on my other children’s grief and my own. My husband is her step-father and had known her since she was 19. She passed at age 25. I knew he had grief as well and I asked him how he was doing often, but perhaps not often enough.


    3 years ago. The day before our 12th wedding anniversary trip I found unused condoms in his car. He swore up and down that he had not cheated on me and didn’t know why he had the condoms. He didn’t intend to use them. It just made him feel manly to have them. I found that he had been watching porn and doing live sex chats. We talked a lot. He convinced me it was just a one time deal. He was curious and didn’t think it was wrong. He was only masturbating. Not touching anyone else. We settled on I believe it is cheating and regardless it was over the acceptable line and we agreed masturbating with live women online was a deal braker. He was not to hide this stuff from me again. He said he was done with it. It wasn’t worth it according to him.


    It was hard to forgive him from that. He made no attempt to acknowledge that any wrong doing had been done even telling me it is okay if I wanted to masturbate with men online. I think it broke me. I worked hard without his help, he would just get annoyed and indifferent with me if I brought it up. Saying things like I know, but I am not going to do it again. I heard nothing but ...you are being ridiculous for having feelings about this. It was just a simple mistake. I decided for my own sanity that I needed to let this one go and find a way to forgive and move on. It took about a year, but I managed forgiveness. But I did not forget. The next 3 years went in waves. I truly love my husband, but I am sure I was not easy to live with. I would call in a panic when he wouldn’t check in for couple of hours. I would check the GPS app we had for the kids to see where he was. I would read his text to me and parse every word. I vowed not to look at his phone, I didn’t want to be that kind of wife. I wanted so much to trust him. He gave me no reason to, but I justified it in my mind. His gaslighting had worked, at least in some ways.


    When we would talk, which wasn’t often I would study his body language. I was watching everything like a hawk just waiting for the day he would come home and tell me he didn’t want me anymore and had been having an affair. I constantly asked him if he wanted to be here. He didn’t have to be married to me. He could be single if he wanted. It would break my heart, but I only wanted him to be happy. It was horrible and petrifying for me. Some where in that 3 years I think I had finally given up and resigned myself to having him as my a roommate for the rest of my life. That he really didn’t want to be with me, he was just waiting to find someone better than me or for me to have had enough.


    We rarely had sex in the past 8 years and about 5 years ago he started having erectile issues. After the condom find incident I had asked him to go to the doctors and see if his testosterone levels were okay. Doc said everything physically was fine, basically it was in his head. Great! So I am responsible for my husbands sex problems. I got old and grey and fat. He didn’t find me attractive anymore. I went on a strict diet and exercised, but gave up after several months of starving myself only to lose 5 lbs.


    My husband kept saying it wasn’t me, he still found me very attractive he didn’t know why he couldn’t get an erection. Over the years I had been asking my husband for sex and communication on a regular basis. I did a ton of research and tried all sorts of methods to get him to love me, to see me, to hear me. He had become extremely distant as well. No focus on me unless we were in public. Then he would always want to hold my hand and touch me and look to the outside world like he was the model husband. But at home. I got an anxious, air head, lazy guy that didn’t seem to know I existed.


    I talked, I yelled, I cried, I did everything I could think of to get and hold his attention, but nothing worked for very long. A few days and he was back to that guy I really didn’t like. I would point it out to him. Even our daughter would say things like, why are you so angry Dad? I began to give up and just resign myself to the life I had. I figured I would live it till I just couldn’t take anymore.


    I would imagine what my life would be like without him. Being a single mother again. It had its perks and began to look like a decent option. I take care of all the money in our marriage. Unfortunately, he is horrible with money. I had even at one point started looking for apartments I could afford to move him into, but the downsides of having to share our daughter and trying to support two households was too much. I can barely keep our home running. And like I said I truly love my husband.


    I stopped trying to get his attention and just tuned out. In fact I started doing the opposite from seeking attention from him. I wouldn’t start conversations. When he got home from work I would put my headphones in and listen to a show or book or play a game on my phone. I had disengaged from our marriage and told him he acted like my roommate so I would take his ques and be a roommate too. I thought I could do that even though somewhere deep inside I knew this was the beginning of the end and I needed to brace myself for the hurt that was coming.


    The morning after I picked him up from the airport returning from our son’s wedding he was acting a bit strange. I had already prepared myself to find out he had cheated in Miami so when I asked to see his phone I braced myself for the worst. I thought I would find texts or emails from a random girl he had hooked up with in the hotel in Miami. All signs pointed to that. Instead there in his browser history was the evidence of porn and sex sites with live women. Through the next few days as we sat and talked and argued. Little sleep and little food. I was going to get to the truth no matter what it took. I would come to find out that my husband was not only watching excessive amounts of porn, but fantasizing about random women he met, putting every women in a category of how fuckable she was, Masturbating 3-4 times a day even at work, masturbating with live women online and was sex seeking while he was in Miami for our son’s wedding and I was home extremely sick. I even found out the condoms were for a girl he had previously worked with, but nothing actually happened according to him. It was painful to see how disappointed he was saying that she didn’t return his attention. At one point he told me that masturbating to porn was better than having sex with me and that he wanted to be free of me. He even told me with excitement how he had planned to and was open to finding a woman that would go back to the hotel with him and fulfill his fantasy. He was searching for his Maimi sex toy everywhere he went. On the plane, at the docks, at the wedding, back to the hotel etc. Categorizing every women. Wondering which one. That didn’t happen so he settled for watching porn and did live sex streaming with several women instead. Unfortunately, for him it didn’t work out as he had planned and he was disappointed.


    During this time I mostly sat and listened asking a lot of questions and probing for the truth. It was excruciating and exhausting. I had to walk a very fine line, act like a therapist and not a wife. Every time the wife came out in me he would shut down and become indifference. Like I had no business being upset with what he just told me.


    Sometimes he would even fake guilt to try to appease me. I called him out on it every time. He would agree with me just to get me to stop talking even though we both knew all that did was infuriate me. Finally, I settled on being just his friend and armchair therapist. I tried to sprinkle some wife in there, but I had to keep it little and discreet. He showed little remorse. Most of the pain and crying I saw was for him. He was scared I would leave him and he would be alone. He was upset with himself that he had essentially missed his son’s wedding because he was so preoccupied with sex seeking. He told me our other son had called him a ghost at the wedding. His fears of being alone and that he had upset our sons brought his only tears. Nothing for me or my pain. After all, I shouldn’t be hurt by any of this. None of this was about me.


    After the 4 days of non stop hearing how much he had lied to me over the years and how much he had deceived me I needed a break. I convinced him that taking “a time out” was the best for everyone. No decisions on our marriage would be made for now. So he agreed and packed up and moved out to stay at his Dad’s house. His Dad is not currently living there so my husband found himself in his childhood room alone in the house he grew up in. We agreed to no porn, masturbation or fantasies about women on our time out. He was to do nothing that had to do with sex or his penis.


    After he left he cried all the way to his Dad’s and text me to tell me. He was so sad, it was so hard to leave his family. I tried to be supportive, but in my head I couldn’t understand this. After all he hadn’t emotionally been then in almost a decade.


    When he left I watched his car drive away and a huge sense of relief came over me. I plopped on the bed and thought. What do I do now. I tried to start to process all things that he had told me, but I had to go tell our girls that Dad and I were on a time out and that we we're not getting divorced.


    During a somewhat heated discussion the day before our youngest (11) had walked in our room unannounced and heard my husband say angrily yes he had cheated on me. (appeasement to get me to stop talking about it) and she flipped out. Her sister and I got her calmed down, but she wouldn’t even look at her Dad. Both the girls asked me if I was okay. I lied and said Im a strong women. Don’t worry about me. I will be fine. I had to assure my youngest that I would do everything in my power to save my marriage and our family. She looked at me through tearing eyes, hugged me tight and sobbed she is sorry for anything she has ever done to upset me. I don’t deserve that. I am the best mom anyone could ask for, she doesn’t deserve to have such a great mother and that she loves me no matter what happens. Her sister took her to her room where they could talk and told me to focus on me. She would talk with the little one. She was there if I needed her. I reassured them both this had nothing to do with them. They are amazing kids and I will always do what is best for all of us.


    After my husband had left. I started doing research online and found a site that talked about porn addiction. I thought that’s not real, but I’ll read it anyways. Wow, my husband, from what he had told me and I had seen, checked all the boxes. Must be a fluke. On to the next one and the next one. What? On to scientific research papers and so on and so on. Porn addiction is a real thing? WTF? How did I not know this? My eldest daughter had died 10 years early of an opioid dependence. I had walked the path of addiction and mental health with her for almost a decade before that. How could I not have seen my husband was in trouble before? How did he hide this from me? Wholly fuck how was I going to live with an addict again? I sent my husband some screen shot of what I had found. After some back and forth he finally said, kind of sounds like what I have been doing. What? You think you are a porn addict too? I’m fucking married to a porn addict?


    How could this be? My husband is shy about sex. When I try to talk about it he just all nervous and can’t even speak. The man who blushes when I say the words blow job is a porn addict? The man who told me he hardly ever masturbates and has only seen porn a couple times in his life is really a porn addict. I was in pure shock. I was prepared for the cheating husband, not this. What did this mean?


    My sympathy for him and my pain of all those years thinking I wasn’t enough made me cry for the first time since DDay. I called my husband but all that could come out was deafening sobs. I cried for about a half hour on the phone until I finally got myself together enough to talk. What was on the other end of the line shocked me again. I was met once again with indifference. Oh sorry that your crying. Appeasement. Oh there, there emotional little one, is all I heard. Was he just appeasing me when he said yes he might be a porn addict? When he told me he thinks he needs help? When he told me that he couldn’t tell his fantasies from reality anymore? Was he just saying that to make me shut up? Luckily my muscle memory kicked in about what it is like to live with an addict. The ups and downs. The addict brain struggling with sensible brain. I would chalk it up to my crying met with the addict brain and not my husband. I gave up trying getting through to him and went back to my research.


    Over the next week I began just typing stuff. It is incomprehensible. Just random thoughts, a lot of anger and pain. I drafted a couple of emails I never intend to send to my friend who is on a month long vacation in Bali. I cant ruin her joy. I reached out to my best friend who lives across the county and made plans to see her next weekend. Just told her my husband isn’t living at home and I needed to see her. I haven’t talked to anyone else except my husband about this. I have to keep my feelings closed off from him for fear of his indifference which just exacerbates my hurt and reaffirms he doesn’t give a fuck about me.


    Knowing that I am getting close to seeing both my friends to vent has allowed me to put my hurt a side a little easier. I promised myself I would not make any decisions about my marriage until I had talked to both my friends. I feel I need to come from a place of grace and not anger and pain. Really look at the situation from all sides and make the most informed rational decision if I want to continue our marriage or not. I also told my husband that no matter what I will support him in his recovery and help him find a good therapist to help walk him through the healing process.


    Just trying to be supportive, loving, and find my compassion as I gather as much information as I can and breath until I see my friends and am able to unpack all this.

    Seek out Joy and meet challenges with grace.
     
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  2. strawbb4

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    Day 21 since DDay. My husband spent most of the weekend at home. He has projects he wanted to work on but mostly it was he and I talking. He left yesterday afternoon.


    Last night I watched and read too much research. I felt overloaded before bed and quite angry at my husband for the damage he has done to himself. Woke still thinking and having empathy for my husband. Trying to mentally prepare myself for what today might bring. Will he go to work and forget I exist again? That thought bothers me, and I try to tell myself it isn't about me. It's his brain all out of wack. But the abandonment feels real. When we first got together I used to say. It will be really nice when he isn't married to his exwife anymore. Meaning he would put my needs first before his ex wives needs. Now I find myself saying It will be really nice when I come before FPMO (fantasies, porn, masturbation, orgasm). I do have hope that we get there. But I do dread the journey. Big parts of the weekend I saw a glimmer of the man who adores me. The way he looked at me a couple of times I could feel his love and admiration for me. I hope for more of that. Keep moving, keep trying, we will get there.


    Joy and grace

    Seek out Joy and meet challenges with grace
     
  3. strawbb4

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    Day 22 since DDay

    Text to my husband after a discussion last night on his O seeking.

    The point of sex is to procreate. Make babies. The pleasure we feel from sex and orgasim is to make us want to make more babies and further our species. Our brains are wired to make sex one of our basic needs for the betterment of the species. I understand sex for pleasure only. It's a great feeling and wires our brains to feel closer if we have sex with only one partner. We feel connected to them. We feel they are the ones providing me with this pleasure. I want more of the pleasure. I want more of them. This is why sex is essential to a good marriage. The partner stimulates and is looked at as the source of the pleasure and joy.

    This is what scared me last night. You have essentially taken me out of that process and replaced me with FPMO. I dont know how long or if it is possible to get that back and keep it. You have trained your brain, the deepest parts of your brain to disassociate sex with a partner. Meaning you may never get the O you were searching for because you took one of the main essentials out of the equation. A partner, just one partner.

    You tapped into the novelty of it and rewired yourself to always look for better for more. I don't know now if you will ever be satisfied with just me.

    I don't think I will ever be enough. You will always be struggling to look for the whatever that gives you the better O.

    I hope it's possible to repair all that damage in your brain, but the images you have of what you associate with better O. I don't think will ever go away.

    How can I ever be enough?

    How can one person ever be enough?

    I will always be scared you will get bored with me and move on. To a screen or another person searching for that O that is unattainable. Unrealistic.

    Your brain can only make so much dopamine and opioids. So the O you were searching for really can never happen.

    It's not real. No matter what you do or who you have sex with.

    No one not even yourself can give you the better O you are craving.

    I always say there are things you cannot unsee. I hope that I wrong.
     
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    Day 22 since DDay


    I don’t want to make my husband the villain of my story. I know in my heart that he is a good man and never meant to do this to himself and us. I wonder if I am setting myself up for failure. Will he always crave novelty? I guess we all do as humans its hard wired in us. Is his thinking brain enough to recognize what his primal brain is saying and change the dialogue in his head. My wife is a nag, no stop, why was she nagging me. Oh because I am not living up to my responsibilities on my own. I need to change that so she feels no need to nag. It will make both mine and her lives better. It will make our relationship better. it will make me better.

    The cycle of addiction:

    My wife nags at me
    When my wife nags at me it upsets me and makes me want to FPMO
    When I FPMO I neglect my responsibilities
    When I neglect my responsibilities
    My wife nags at me.


    Healthy brain:

    My wife nags at me
    Why does my wife nag at me
    Because I am neglecting my responsibilities.
    When I take care of my responsibilities
    My wife will stop nagging at me
     
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  5. strawbb4

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    Still Day 22 since DDay

    My husband called me today to tell me a coworker had invited him to work event on a college campus. He started to tell me all the pros and cons. Pro, free food, fun games. Con there will be a lot of women there, maybe some triggers. He went through lots of reasons why he shouldn't go. He is only 18 days into his reboot. After he was done with all the reasons he thought he shouldn't go. I asked him if he could think of any other reasons. Anything that might be a factor. He said No I can't think of anything.


    How about me? How that might make me feel? What if you get triggered and it sends you into a relapse? How do you think I am going to feel with you at an all day event with literally hundreds of young women walking around?


    Of course he responses I didn't even think of you.


    Hense the problem.

    Seek out Joy and meet challenges with Grace
     
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    Day 23 since DDay

    Trust is going to be a problem, but I knew that. I look at my husband now and still see the broken shell of a man porn has made him. Don't get me wrong some days I see a glimmer of the man I love but yesterday. Yesterday I saw that same blank stare. He had issues putting sentences together and looked ragged and broken. I don't know if its withdrawal, coming to grips of the damage he caused himself and his family or just plain lies. How can I know? He says he wants to get better, but he is still acting as he is a single man. With no wife or family to consider. I know his FPMO has convinced him he is a single man, but that fantasy is difficult to hear as his wife.

    Questions I ask myself. Which brain am I talking to? Rational brain? Addict brain? I'm not sure he even recognizes the difference. Is he still FPMO? How would I know? I didn't know before. I knew something was wrong, but just didn't know it was this. He gaslighted me for so many years. Made me think this is my doing. When it was all him. He does acknowledges now that I did nothing wrong and I know that is a start. It just feels like such a long journey the deeper we dig. Porn turned him into a zombie, searching for his next dopamine hit.

    Hopefully he makes good choices today. Hopefully he really sees what this shit has done to him. Hopefully someday I will get my husband back.

    I talked him through how to tell his coworker this morning he's not going to the event. But it kept feeling more like he was trying to convince himself it was a bad idea and looking for excuses to go. He reached out to me to get my opinion, but he has always done that when he is struggling with something he doesn’t know how to communicate. He even said yesterday he knows he has made bad decisions. All I can do is make observations, suggestions and step back. He has to make those decisions on his own. What a scary thought. Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. That has been my life.


    Seek out Joy and meet challenges with Grace
     
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  7. KevinesKay

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    I very much appreciate you sharing your story here. It saddens me to see you undergoing this. Anyways, from someone who's been at this a long time, I expect this to be a long journey for both of you.
    You seem very alone in this. He does too.
    My desire for both of you is to get additional support. 12 step groups would be a good option. Please. Don't do this alone. The opposite of addiction is connection. This forum is good, but you both need more.
    But thank you for sharing. Keep it up.
     
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  8. Psalm27:1my light

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    Hoping for the best, preparing for the worse…. Lol that has been basically how I’ve lived my life. That and recognizing all the good and blessings in my life rather than focusing on all the bad. The realization that porn is an actual addiction comes with a new way of seeing the addict( at least it did for me) I feel more empathy than I use to.
     
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    Thank you for your kind thoughtful words. I have thought about 12 step groups. I attended al-alnon in my younger days. NA with my daughter. I used to attend meetings with her because she didnt like to go alone. Some great experiences and some not so great, but as they say take what you need and leave the rest. I'm up for anything that might help. Thanks for the suggestion and support.
     
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    Thank you. It does for me as well. It also brings up great sadness and fear. I watched my daughter slowly die from her addiction. It was indescribable. I am so grateful my husband's addiction is not life threatening. The empathy and concern I feel for my husband has over written most of the anger I felt before I knew it was an addiction.

    Sadly, it is unpacking some old emotions as well in both of us. It also brings some of that togetherness we found in supporting my daughter.

    Life is full of twists and turns. Joy and pain.

    Keeping the blessing first in my thoughts. Thanks for the reminder.
     
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    Day 24 since DDay

    Last night we had another hard conversation. Where even more details of his porn addiction came out. I prefer to have these conversations in person rather than on the phone so we can end the conversation with at least a hug. Some touch for both of us. I need him to know that I love him all. Even the ugly parts (as my daughter and I used to say). I text him as much after our phone call, but it just doesn't have the same impact as reminding him in person. I slept uneasy. Only about 4 hours.

    I fly to the opposite coast tonight to see my best friend. I am so excited to see her, but apprehensive about leaving my husband in charge of the house and kids. I travel for work often so it's not a new thing, but now, what he is doing when I'm not home has a different impact on us both. I worry that being at home, not his childhood house, without me there. Will be rot with triggers.

    This addiction is hard. I had no issues with porn. I had no issues with masturbation. I had no issues with my husband doing either. It's lies, secrecy, and escalation point my husband has gotten to that I have issue with. We both know now he cannot do any of it ever again. At least I hope he truly believes that too.

    It breaks my heart some of the things he has done while "seeking the better orgasm" (his words not mine). I cried last night (Second time since DDay) but this time it was for my husband. For my daughter. Maybe for all the good people that find themselves lost in the world of addiction. So lost they can't even see the deep pit they have fallen into.

    My husband brought up last night how I worked tirelessly advocating and bringing awareness to the opioid epidemic after my daughter's death. Sharing my story, the mother of a beautiful wonderful soul who lost her life to a heroin overdose. Trying to help just one person going through the same, I marched, I rallied people. I spoke in very public forums. I help new laws get passed. Now all that seems like a distant person to me. My husband said so too. Porn addiction has turned us both into such different people. I want to find that powerful woman again. The woman that was determined to change things and truly believed she could.

    Hoping today will be better than yesterday. Hoping today will bring new joy and help my find my grace.
     
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    Here on the East coast with my best friend. So glad I came here. Finally slept about 6 hours straight. Can't remember the last time I did that.
    Talking with my friend is the best medicine.

    Had a great phone conversation with my husband too. I have been deep diving with him to try to figure out when the occasional PMO turned into the monster of addiction. Was there something that happened? What need was he trying to fill, or what emotion was he trying to escape from?

    During our call my husband had an epiphany that led to an interesting theory. His first marriage did not end well. A lot of hurt and anger. I have talked to him about it over the years. I told him many times that it worried me. He and his exwife didn't work their way out. He came home from work one day to find the house empty. She had moved out and taken everything including their boys with her. That isn't the whole story of course, but the pain that caused, left scars on both my husband and his ex wife. I did the work with my ex-husband before we split. We are still friends and he is always invited to family functions. There is no tension there. He has moved on and so have I. I believe divorce takes work. I did my work knowing I wanted to have healthier relationships in the future.

    Anyways. The theory, after narrowing it down that the PMO started to get a lot more frequent in our marriage about 2016-17. Before that according to my husband the only other time he was PMO frequently was when he was married to his first wife and while he was single before he met me. Mind you, frequent meaning once a day most days. No where near where he escalated to before DDay.

    As his first marriage was falling apart. His exwife would go out with friends after work. She worked late often. Which would leave him at home with both his young boys alone. I assumed it was devastating, but he has never talked about it much.

    We looked back at where we were in 2016-17.

    I have always had a career. In both my marriages I have been the main provider. During those years I headed a multi-million dollar project that took me away from my family, traveling, at least one day a week sometimes up to four days in a week. It was crazy long hours and preoccupied with work more often than not. Leaving my husband the main care taker of the kids and house.

    I remember those days thinking I lived more in hotels than I did with my family. It was hard. I wanted to be at home. I always felt like I was missing too much of the good stuff. But in my mind I was doing this for them. To give them more. To make all our lives better. I thought if my career is good I can provide better for my family.

    So, my husband had found himself once again home alone with a preschooler while his wife was gone. Me traveling for work may have brought up all the old feelings he had when his first wife went out partying with friends. Feelings that he never dealt with. Feelings he didn't like. Feelings that told him some where in his subconscious I know where these feelings lead. I've been here before. My wife is going to find someone else and take everything even my kids away from me. I don't want to feel like this again. How do I handle this. Oh right PMO helped in the past. Yes. Let's do that again...

    My husband agreed to do a deeper dive on that in the days to come and we discussed his day without me there. I told him he should clean the shower. I mean really scrub that shit out. He had told me when he showered again at home yesterday it brought back strong urges for FPMO. This was his main place where he would escape. Start the day with some porn fantasy and MO. Makes me really want to tear that shit out and put a whole new bathroom in. But I think doing some deep scrubbing might be cathartic for him. Trying to look at the upside. That's why my husband always smelled nice.

    More deep dive friend talk today. We will see where it leads. It going to be a long road, this is a really good start.

    Seeking Joy, meeting challenges with grace.
     
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