Is women quitting masturbating even beneficial for them as it is for men?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by free_testosterone, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. free_testosterone

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    Considering that males have a lot more testosterone and we work quite differently.
    I ask because me and my girlfriend are both doing this together and its crossed my mind whether it will do anything for her as it will for me. Is there any science behind it?
    I agree that porn is bad for both sexes but she can easily go without it so leaving porn out the picture.. is a woman releasing herself every now and then even a bad thing and are there any studies?
    Discuss...
     
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  2. care4ameatball

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    I think it works both ways for both sexes. While I think men might receive more benefits, it's not impossible that females do either. When you think about it, it's more about how you probably perceive yourself. When a girl watches porn with females in it, she sees how good looking these girls are. And she sees the way they are, their body etc. You might feel better about yourself, more confident, and more enjoyable sex etc. You might feel more feminine, or more attractive. You might enjoy if guys look at you, instead of feeling uncomfortable. It depends. Since I'm a guy, I can't exactly tell you what the benefits are. But I would suggest talking to some of the other girls on here, and see what the benefits are for them. I'm sure it is beneficial, but it depends on the person. If you have a really, really bad problem, you might be really benefitted by this. But if you can easily go a week without a problem, than you probably will get benefits, every one does, but it all depends on the person. Here's some links, of girls who did NoFap: http://yourbrainonporn.com/female-things-have-really-changed-me
    http://yourbrainonporn.com/female-benefits-nofap-women-theory
    http://yourbrainonporn.com/woman-had-pmo-problem-husband-joined-me-no-pmo-experience-interesting
    http://yourbrainonporn.com/female-i-got-laid-and-it-was-awesome
     
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  3. Diesel74

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    I can see how stopping M would benefit a woman. One reason is woman tend to keep thoughts private sometimes...and sexual frustration makes everything boil up to the surface. This unpleasantness leads to greater trust and intimacy, with is absolutely essential in any relationship.
     
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  4. avle

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    As a female, my pmo addiction has negatively affected my relationship. I rarely orgasm with my boyfriend, and when I do, I have to think of porn. Porn has taken the emotional intimacy out of my relationship. I do believe men and women benefit from not watching so much porn.
     
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  5. Beowulf

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    I think its a hard wired thing for guys..we see..we want... we try to get. if we can't do it for real we find the next best thing. its just the next best thing is easily available and caters for any whim and taste and proclivity. I have been with women who have been upfront and said that they only o when they use a vibe. I would now reply with thats ok i might not be able to get it up....i think the PMO addiction is massively destructive for men and women..
     
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  6. jbastoniv

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    I could see where P and a vibrator could be just as destructive as P and a tight grip!
     
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  7. I read all those links and found them superbly interesting to read about this issue from the perspective of women. Very interesting and mind opening. Thanks for putting this very important information on the forum; Care4ameatball.

    Perhaps through reading about women's stories we may actually understand them and ourselves as men and the importance of sexuality and its sacredness.
     
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  8. e5s

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    I think P is bad for both sexes and it's best to do without.

    As for M, it depends on the person, whether male or female. For some it clearly becomes much more of a problem than for others.

    For most humans, it's normal to try M at some point in our lives. For women, it is possible that this is their first introduction to feeling good sexually, and this may come long after they've started partnered sex.

    Some women can't O at all without a vibrator. Not because of P, because of anatomy.

    So... I don't know. For M, it just depends on the individual, and the only person you know well enough to tell what to do is yourself. It's good to talk about these things in a relationship, but any power given from one partner to the other (s.a. "don't come without me!") has to be given freely.
     
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  9. Love1984

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    I agree with this. I give less excuses for people in general because I am less passive now. It is easy for a woman to M out her problems; then she cares less about addressing them. My view towards men is a lot healthier, less one sided, less blaming the other, more realistic. Thus, I am able to spot out men who are just not good for me or do not align with my values. Honestly, I don't even attract those types of men into my life anymore. That happened almost immediately when I stopped.

    It is a challenge and many feminists do not believe in the benefits. Believe me, I am a feminist, but you have to give this more than a week to appreciate it. Benefits may come immediately, but to actually appreciate the change in your life you have to give this at least 30 days. It takes 30 days to break a habit supposedly, so I think this is good timing.

    I did notice a slight improvement in my skin and hair. My acne scars filled out a little and my baby bangs came in a bit more, but bigger changes were seen in my thoughts towards men, outlook on life, and people I attract. I also felt a lot better about myself and gave myself less excuses. I have more drive and focus now. I don't internalize my problems and let them distract me.

    My sleep is about the same. My energy levels are about the same, but a bit better. I take "Herbatonin" (plant-based melatonin) at night to help me sleep if my eyes feel tired but my body feels awake. I put more attention into what I am wearing and how I present myself. Lost a little bit of belly fat.

    http://www.xojane.com/sex/5-things-happen-when-you-quit-masturbating

    http://www.lovepanky.com/sensual-tease/fantasy/benefits-of-not-masturbating

     
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    Yes. Women lose sensitivity just as well. They also don't have to go to extreme sizes for the same pressure.
     
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  12. Happy Man

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    It's the same thing
     
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  13. SnowWhite

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    Exactly this is the core of the issue. For both sexes.
    The "problems" are low self confidence, fears, doubts.

    The way to a worthful life is to gain a stronger self, to become autonomous, to become self-responsible, to organize yourself, to structurize yourself, to find your own your goals and to follow them.

    Make your goals a lodestar about yourself and follow it. Repeat your goals every day. The lodestar will shine then and guide you also through dark times.
     
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  14. Health is key

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    Hey man, so porn definitely impacts woman. Since I've learnt about this I've been with woman who watch loads of porn and can't create any lubricant at all. Then I've been with a girl who abstains completely and she gets so wet it's crazy. So porn is definitely very negative for both genders. Occasional masturbation would be fine but I've also heard how sex toys make the real thing seem very average. So she should definitely avoid sex toys. I think this is all important for building a healthy relationship based on physical contact rather than orgasm. If she doesn't masturbate actual sex would be much more enjoyable for her I would think.
     
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  15. Tesslynne

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    Yeah, on this NoFap journey, I'm finding out PMO for me is not just for physical reasons, but for emotional ones! And, great answer!
     
  16. Tesslynne

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    Good answer. I think PMO can adversely affect WOMEN'S sex lives too - oddly enough a ton of articles say the opposite and ENCOURAGE us to masturbate and say the sex will be better but honestly, I think that is a lie and that what you say is probably true, harder for us to get wet, orgasm to sex etc. because we are so conditioned to only getting those things from ourselves. And, yes, I think - not always! - but in many cases, better sex can be part of a better connection between the two people having it, can have a knock on affect.
     
  17. Love1984

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    I agree with everything these men are saying. A woman does self-lubricate better when she is not M. I recently fell back into M during a stressful season in my life. Then I thought Wait, what am I doing??? I definitely don't want to fall back into M again as it made me a passive person/problem solver. Avoiding self-induced PMO altogether makes me a happier person. I am way more direct instead of thinking 'I'll just take care of this problem later during "me" time.'

    I haven't been with anyone in almost a year due to no relationship, but I know for a fact the intimacy/touch/O/ is 10x better when not PMO.
     
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  18. Tesslynne

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    Thank you, Love1984....that is very VERY encouraging to me to hear!
     
  19. I think many of the Taoist sexual theories purport that O for women is beneficial, whilst for the man he loses essential essence. Hence 'let petit mort' after ejaculation.

    But I agree that the damage may be not having intamaticy in a relationship due to P or fantisies
     
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  20. Tesslynne

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    I think orgasm can be beneficial for us, sure, but maybe orgasm due to SEX is different to orgasm due to masturbation and porn/porn subs. ??? Thoughts? I've heard of that, what you said about the intimacy. I don't have THAT issue, but I've read about some women having sex with someone they love and are in a relationship with, but their mind has to go to their fantasies to get off. Which I think would also be a blow to intimacy.