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Is there a relation between Pornography Escalation and Homosexuality?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by vitatertot, Jun 22, 2018.

  1. vitatertot

    vitatertot Fapstronaut

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    DISCLAIMER: I do not look down on homosexuals or anyone regardless of their sexual views, I'm simply wondering if pornography plays a part of it.

    Okay, lets start this off. Since I've been visiting this website and my reviewing my own pornographic addiction, I had started wondering about this. I was exposed to porn at 10 years old on accident, and over the next 5 years, it SLOWLY escalated (I was trying to stop the whole time after about one year. Started taking it seriously at 15) from still images to vanilla, then more hardcore and increasingly fetish material. I found myself no longer being aroused by normal sex, and was just looking for the next taboo thing. I dread to think where I would be now if I hadn't started trying to seriously stop. Then I was talking to a friend about his addiction, and he told me his journey was similar, except the first thing he was exposed to was BDSM and rape themed. As a young teenager, where do you go from there? He escalated into gay porn, and for a while thought he was bisexual. After he stopped his pornography addiction, he realized that he wasn't, his sexuality had just literally been warped by pornography. Right now he is in a fantastic relationship with one of my good friends (girl), and isn't looking back.

    I guess what I'm trying to ask is, for young men who are just starting puberty and being bombarded by pornography before they even have a chance to develop their sexuality, do you think that early exposure and escalation of pornography can warp their sexuality to the point where they truly are homosexual?

    And again, I'm not saying I'm condemning homosexuals, I'm not trying to start a debate on whether they were born that way, I'm just wondering of this is an aspect that is influencing why we're having younger and younger teenagers coming out as gay.

    Does anyone have a story similar to this?
    Thoughts?
     
  2. Don’t know about that but totally believe porn is truly dangerous emotionally for anyone with a tendency to compulsive behaviors. I’m a pre I internet user. You had to physically seek it out. We in the 1960’s were much more into actual sexual experience.
     
  3. vitatertot

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    What I'm wondering is for those who have no moral qualms against porn. Even before I started seriously starting to quit, for the first five years I was addicted I knew it was wrong and did try to some degree to stop. But for those who have no such reservations and just dive right in to their addiction, feeding it and letting it grow, the escalation and desensitization may occur much quicker and more thoroughly than those who are constantly trying to stop. Can you become so desensitized to the point where you can't get aroused by normal sex or even women in general? If you're only watching gay porn can it get to the point where you can only get aroused by men? You know what I mean? And going off of this, if people are questioning their sexuality and they stop their pornography addiction, do you think that if that is what is causing it they may turn out to be straight in the first place? I'm just letting my thoughts wander.
     
  4. I think the science for a compulsion type porn use says not matter straight, gay, trans whatever eventually you become numb and it just doesn’t rise to the occasion, if you know what I mean. One seeks out weirder and weirder things trying to get that great feeling back. It’s like chasing it.
     
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  5. Okay, so there’s a thing called hocd that many nofappers claim. I think it’s possible some could have been confused since they don’t know what is going on. It takes a lot of awareness I’d say to know if you’re truly gay or not even though you find pleasure looking/thinking about males and their parts. Also, who could understand that porn could make them that way? We are here on nofappers and still don’t know and we are some what aware. So my answer is that it’s possible, wouldn’t be surprised
     
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  6. winterjay

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    I think there may be... I'm addicted to ts porn and I've had a few experiences with ts women. Now, after all this, I'm not gay... but often I catch myself in the middle of a conversation with another man thinking that "he's handsome" and feeling a certain attraction to him. A very uncomfortable and contradictory feeling since at the same time I feel repulsion to him and men in general. I'm only feel attracted to very feminine ts women. They need to look and smell like real women or else I feel repulsion. (No offense to trans people or women, I'm just trying to describe my experience.)

    So, there you go.
     
  7. Definitely yes. Check out Gary Wilson's "the great porn experiment". This has to do with the brain getting a bigger kick out of taboo porn and such, and not necessarily reflects own sexual preference. This can get really, really weird. In my case it escalated to the point of sissy fetish, with a strong desire to be a female and get abused, something I'd never want in real life.
    Porn completely corrupts natural sexuality and can cause a lot of self-doubt in the process. If it escalates to the point of doubting your own sexuality, although deep down you know better, you can bet you're plagued by a fetish.
     
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  8. It's that whole debate about nature or nurture isn't it ? personally i know from first hand experience how an individuals tastes in porn can escalate onto more extreme, bizarre, crazy and even illegal content. It's the buzz, the thrill, the anticipation and the feeling of being tucked away safely behind a screen that plays havoc with a person who has issues with self control and compulsive behaviour. I've seen so many genres of porn there is no way on earth i can be born with all of those quirks and fetishes, what i was probably born with was addictive traits and compulsivity and environmentally, learning poor coping strategies to deal with life.

    I don't think porn can 'turn' someone gay since its a sexuality recorded in history over thousands of years but i think one could get to a point where they look at this content as the 'extreme' end, some forbidden place which eventually due to repeated exposure they lose their inhibitions and come to the conclusion it's not so bad afterall, ie: they learn to give themselves permission to be aroused by it, but the problem with that process is there is no real end goal, just more content and more extreme and violent forms to find.

    I think the best way to understand your own sexuality is to leave porn behind and notice how you interact with people in your real life, do you feel romantically inclined towards them? can you imagine living with this person and making love to them? what are your aspirations for a partnership or relationship? I know after 3 years of abstinence from porn I'm a regular straight heterosexual man but at my worst i was viewing all kinds of disturbing stuff, none of it had anything to do with what i really wanted...which was companionship, affection, freedom from isolation and lonliness. Porn will only leave you feeling empty and give you more questions than answers about who you really are as a human being.
     
  9. Marlon-Brando

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    İ totaly agree with that.
     
  10. overclocked

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    There were gay people before porn. So no. But some fappers escelated to gay porn out of curiosity and their brain made a connection.
     
  11. vitatertot

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    Yeah, I'm not trying to say porn is THE reason people are gay, I'm sure there's a billion and one reasons, I was just trying to start a conversation about escalation. Desensitization, fetishes, the whole bit, until you ARE getting aroused by gay porn, and you may eventually come to think (maybe due to naivety, or not having any normal sexual experiences, combined with becoming bored with women (because they're softcore)), that you're gay because you're penis is getting hard to it. Know what I mean?
     
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  12. I strongly think there is a correlation..
     
  13. Based on my experiences as a lifelong porn and masturbation addict is that eventually we want to share this passion and we seek out others who also love masturbating. I grew up thinking I was the only one who masturbated. Very naive I know. When I started watching porn I was surprised to see men masturbating in front of the women. It made me feel more normal. Eventually I went to bookstores and had the same realization that other men were there to masturbate. It validated me as a masturbator. Later on I would go online to chat rooms where others were openly masturbating and chatting. It felt amazing to connect with others like me who desperately wanted to feel normal. It was then I felt the urge to meet another male for masturbation. I never felt as though it was a gay thing but more of a way to connect with another over something we both loved doing so much. I’ve never felt like I wanted a traditional type relationship with a guy but definitely felt as though i wanted to share the pleasure openly.

    I’m now 21 days into hard mode NoFap and want to quit completely but I think it’s normal to want to share pleasure and it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re gay.
     
  14. vitatertot

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    Just sayin man, masturbating isn't and shouldn't be a "pleasure" or something to be celebrated. At best, it's a release when there's no other outlet. It should NEVER be something you celebrate or are excited that you're doing. Essentially, what masturbating is telling your brain, and reinforcing is, "I'm a beta, I'm not good enough to get sex, and so the only way I can feel temporarily is by wacking MYSELF off." It's never a good habit. I' SUPER proud of you for goin 21 days. Takes balls. But you do need to change your view on masturbation. I think that what is going on is your addiction has truly tricked you into thinking it's normal.
     
  15. vitatertot

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    Just sayin man, masturbating isn't and shouldn't be a "pleasure" or something to be celebrated. At best, it's a release when there's no other outlet. It should NEVER be something you celebrate or are excited that you're doing. Essentially, what masturbating is telling your brain, and reinforcing is, "I'm a beta, I'm not good enough to get sex, and so the only way I can feel temporarily is by wacking MYSELF off." It's never a good habit. I' SUPER proud of you for goin 21 days. Takes balls. But you do need to change your view on masturbation. I think that what is going on is your addiction has truly tricked you into thinking it's normal. Take your time to reboot, and you will naturally go back to realizing and seeing masturbation for what it is.
     
  16. I agree with you and understand your point. I guess my comments were based on the way I was looking at it then. After reading your reply I agree 100%, I need to continue to change my thinking. Thank you.
     

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