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Is porn addiction the problem or is it masturbation?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by JabralterJames, Sep 7, 2018.

  1. JabralterJames

    JabralterJames New Fapstronaut

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    I'm very new to this entire concept, and I can definitely see the negative effects of porn on the brain. I've inadvertently not fapped at all for a week with the original goal of quitting watching porn, but now I'm curious if you can still "have a session" just without watching porn?

    I figured this place would be the best place to turn to for an answer.
     
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  2. El_Macho

    El_Macho Fapstronaut

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    Say no to both.

    I was doing so good for months and with summer vacation time...had too much time on my hands and relapsed horribly. Right now I’m at flatline, not even 100mg via-gra works, have no sex drive, no morning wood...nothing! I regret it!
     
  3. Freiheit

    Freiheit Fapstronaut

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    I personally guess M ist the real problem. The need to watch P vanishing with the need to M. To M without P leads me sooner or later to P again. Always.
     
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  4. It depends on the person. I've met guys who have no partner and are single. They seem to be fine with just M to no P. Others find both to be an issue. I'm more concerned about the P but I'm also abstaining from M.
     
  5. 4DCreator

    4DCreator Fapstronaut

    Ok so..PMO vs Fapping

    PMO - damaging your vision of women, you see them as an attractive sexual object. You keep imaging of getting them into bed when you are around them. Also, it eats you from inside as a man. You are having all sorts of issues like low self-esteem, anxiety to go somewhere and speak to real women, etc. Watching porn also gives you a bit of dopamine which is tricking your rewarding system that you have achieved something so you feel good. But you feel good about yourself by achieving what? Nothing. Your brain can become addictive to this little porn watching dopamine rewards. WRONG!

    Fapping/ejaculating - you watching porn (eventually) and you are ejaculating the most important liquid in your body. That liquid holds loads of minerals and important substances which have to be replenished. This can drain your energy big time. By fapping, you are not achieving anything. As a man, your body is designed to attract a woman and that's a reward, achievement. Fapping is not a reward it is just tricking your body. Also, your semen holds your sexual energy, that sexual energy can be transferred into something else more valuable self-developmental. Fapping will get you drained and tired - similar feelings to those who take antidepressants (sleepy with no energy to achieve something). No-fapping will boost your testosterone and your body will become more attractive for women around you. Also, your need for real achievements will go up definitely. You won't be tricked by fapping that you have achieved something so there is no need for achievements. Fapping can literally make you as a zombie and you can just live this low-frequency/sleepy life where you are shaking during the day and just waiting when you gonna fap (like a proper addict)

    Also fapping gives you an orgasm, dopamine squirts into your brain, so you will become lethargic to normal life around you and depressed until another fap. You won't be happy with normal things as sunrise, sunset, nature, laugh, nice day, little success at work as your brain won't be happy on that "low level" of dopamine. When you no-fapping your dopamine reward system will get back to normal so you can eventually get out of the depressive stage and experience happiness with small things around you. You will be much more present at the moment. Even a smaller level of dopamine will make you happy and you will be looking for greater achievements in your life to get more natural dopamine (or lovely girlfriend who you will appreciate for who she is and not as a sexual attractive object)
     
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