Is it worth abstaining from orgasms entirely if I plan on living a rather monastic lifestyle?

If it needs to get out of the system, it will do this by itself.

 

"Getting it out of the system" as you say is the problem. You have a belief that when desire becomes intense you can't focus or maintain and become obsessed. But that is a false belief that is causing most of the problem.

When you want to give into the almighty orgasm is when you need to buckle down and weaken the habit by saying, NO! You don't need orgasm in your life unless you plan to make babies and/or bond with wifey. Even then it's not an obsession.

If you are going to be monastic (heaven forbid why?), you need to be able to control your sexual energies. That is what NOFAP is all about - getting control of yourself and channeling your sexual energy to a higher end. Your purpose is not orgasm.

 

There are ways, through meditation to move sexual energy up the spine, filling up higher chakra's, lessening the intensity, and leaving you in a higher state of awareness.
There are 3 traditions that I know of that use these practices, Tantra and Kundalini Yoga, and Taoists monks.
I have a little article and website that goes into tantric practices (may contain triggers though, so be warned) and a book on tao sexual energy cultivation.
http://www.allabouttantra.info/en/english/39-sublimating-sexual-energy-for-men
http://krishnamurti.abundanthope.or...ts-of-Love-Cultivating-Male-Sexual-Energy.pdf

There is plenty more on the internet and in books, but start here and otherwise google some stuff about sexual energy transmutation, through either tantra or kundalini yoga.
Good luck!

 

What an ignorant statement. If you have nothing meaningfull to contribute to threads like this just stay out of them.

 

Serious question though, is fear involved in any of this?

 

Could be.
Could also be that a lot of people, myself somewhat included are sick and tired of the rat's race that is modern society, the attachment to material and fleeting things like sex, drugs and endless entertainment, and want to see if there is anything beyond that. And living monasticly, is a simple way of seeing if there is.
It's one thing to be afraid of pussy and say well I'm just going to be celibate and I won't let my interests hover towards women. It's a different game to live without any attachment to desire, and living a life focused on spirituality and nothing else.

 

Thanks everyone for your thoughts here. Good questions, good stuff. In my experience, the time that I've spent in a monastic community has been some of the most valuable time spent in my life. It absolutely helps to have others practicing celibacy; sexual urges almost become a non-issue after awhile. And, hopefully the energy goes into the meditation practice, if one's time and intentions are used and pointed in a skillful way, towards more ease, and acceptance of the ups and downs of the mind, learning to ride the waves of all of our mind states, from anger to boredom to desire to confusion to doubt to joy and happiness to peace, just watching the whole show. And also seeing how many times the mind still gets caught up in pointless bullshit, even in a monastery! But, overall the mind tends to calm down and actually enjoy quiet, enjoy peace, enjoy nature, enjoy simple pleasures and see the value in simplicity. These things are hard to value when we are caught up in the busyness of life always bouncing from one thing to the next without slowing down. And I think there's always going to be some fear mixed in there, but in a healthy community these things will need to be seen for what they are and dealt with anyway. Wherever you go, there you are! No escape--shit! Good news is that it's possible to change.

Unplugging from materialistic society is not for everyone, but for those with inclinations towards meditation and periods of celibacy, I would highly recommend retreats and/or staying in a monastery for a time.

As far as releasing, I understand the feeling of wanting to release the energy; in my experience, when I exercise or play guitar or meditate or or connect on Nofap or whatever instead, I find that pouring my energy into constructive activities has a better result than jerking off. But, we have some long held beliefs about things and some long held habits, these are hard to break. This addiction is a tricky bugger, but I'm so grateful for the discussions and encouragement on here. All the best to all of you, this is a struggle against the current of really intense pleasure and for some of us redirecting this energy towards spiritual practice, but we can do this together, and the conviction is growing that this is such a valuable thing, whether one is practicing celibacy or healthy masturbation or in a relationship. Good luck rebooters!

 

If you find this useful, then, wish you the best. I use my own technique for it. I call it my bookwormish style.

 

I don't see it as suppression. It's like making a plot of land fertile that is covered in thorns, briers and dense weeds. You have to conquer your passions before you can have a fruitful life. Every fiber of your being wants sexual release? What if every fiber of your being wanted to control your sexual desire to a purposeful end, then what?

 

The link describes raising sexual energy to the head.

In a book, I think this same one you linked, that comes with the warning that after the energy rises to the head, it should be lowered down to the abdomen, or else there may be some unpleasant side effects.

 

Could you please give more details ? I don't know what you are talking about.

 

I love this discussion! I have long wanted to live the life of a monk and after a few months the sexual urges become so strong that it does “seem” like they need to be released. I very rarely have wet dreams that bring about orgasm.

I think the longest I have gone is 6 months. When I meditate regularly it does seem easier and maybe if I go further than a few months it will get easier but so far it does seem very difficult indeed.

Also, I think not having anyone to talk to makes it difficult as most guys think it’s crazy to try to be celibate. Even comments by other Fapstronauts here reveal the programming of how people think sex is a necessary activity.

Wishing you success on the path!

 

the "seem" is just an illusion. I started FAP at about 20 and got saved at 26 - the Lord gave me a 4.5 year period where I didn't have any desire for PMO and I relapsed in 2007 and have been battling on and off since then. During that period the urges vanished from what I can remember.

 

How often did you have wet dreams during that time period? From what I have heard most guys will have nocturnal emissions 1-2 time a month if they are not sexually active. In my Case I will go
Months without that happening.

 

not very often, it was rare

 

Yes. If you wanna do this, you can do it.