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Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by 6Ste1fan8, Nov 10, 2022.

  1. 6Ste1fan8

    6Ste1fan8 Fapstronaut

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    Hello guys,
    so I've been struggling with masturbation/porn since my childhood(I think it started when i was around 12). Now I am 23 and there've been many ups and downs. My longest streak(no porn & masturbation) was around 6 months after that I unfortunately relapsed and things went kind of in the wrong direction(started using sex toys, watching porn - before I watched only pictures). There was usually 2-4 day period between my relapses. However I can say that currently I've managed not to fap for ~6-7 weeks - also no porn or insta models(etc..) at all but sometimes when I was scrolling insta/fb I saw some pictures of girls in bikinis but I just kept scrolling. So to sum it up I would say that I have problems with masturbation and sometimes it affected my daily life.

    Now here's my question. I would say I'm doing pretty fine, there also urges sometimes but I can handle them. However what's your opinion on masturbation WITHOUT porn or any related stuff ? (for example pictures of insta models,..) Just fantasty or thoughts. And what about masturbation with sex toys but also WITHOUT using porn ?

    Thanks in advance for your help..
     
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  2. Meshuga

    Meshuga Fapstronaut

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    Depends on what your goals are and what P, M, and O mean to you.

    Most of the time, P independent of M and vice versa are only a justification to go back to addictive behaviors. If your behavior got to the point where it interfered with your life, but you’re 6-7 weeks clean now… why risk it?

    My guess is because you’re white knuckling it. I mean, you probably have your systems and your habits, and that’s making it easier, but there’s some deeper psychological need that used to get met by P, or the fantasy of all that stuff, and it’s not getting met any more. A fair question to ask may be, how do you feel when you use sexual fantasy? I mean besides the dopamine rush. How do you feel then, that isn’t similar to things you usually feel?

    Or go ahead and try to M without P and see where you get. My guess is, nowhere good. To me though, P and the kind of M you’re describing isn’t strictly normal. So if you’re craving abnormal stimulus, there’s got to be an underlying motivation. I’ll bet it’s a normal need that could be filled in a normal way, if you could figure out why you want to do what you do.
     
  3. 6Ste1fan8

    6Ste1fan8 Fapstronaut

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    So as I said before - my time period between relapses were usually 2-4 days, sometimes there was time period where I fapped day by day and sometimes I also went 1-2 weeks without masturbation. When I went 6 months without PMO it was due to my priest - actually I'm a christian and therefore P + M is considered as sin. I think that 1-2 weeks ago I read two books which mainly described pornography addiction, masturbation, sex addiction,etc.. Basically I found out that if somebody is addicted to porn then he has difficulties in real life sex so this is now my main motivation not to watch porn again - I started to watch porn only 1 or 2 years ago before that it was just picture and to be honest when I was watching porn it was just girls with sex toys. I didn't want to watch "standard" porn(male with female) since I knew it would get only worse and I would be forced to look for another types of porn. I've never had any girlfriend or sex so I'm quite not sure if I am somehow affected by it in terms of real life intimacy. I've been without PMO 6 months and I still remember that great feeling not watch porn or masturbate just to waste time or just because I was bored. But eventually I relapsed and now I also have some urges to use sex toys but this time only without using any porn or related stuff so I wanted to hear your opinion on that. If you're wondering why I started using sex toys then my answer is quite simple and maybe embarassing: I would say I'm kind of impatient and I wanted to spice things little bit and wanted to know how real life vagina feels like - I know that no sex toys is 100% similar to it but there are some versions which are close to it.

    Btw one more question - I also suffer from premature ejaculation(when using sex toys I only lasted for a few minutes if I was lucky). Can it be caused by watching porn or simply insta models + by often masturbation ? if yes, how long does it take to recover ?
     
  4. What
    made you turn upside down after 6 months of great life?
     
  5. My guess is Facebook and Instagram are trying to make us go off Nofap.

    Delete them. I deleted my social media accounts. Try doing something off the Internet.
     
  6. 6Ste1fan8

    6Ste1fan8 Fapstronaut

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    Well buddy, I'm not sure. I was going to church 3-4x per week, praying almost every single day. I was at high school during that time and we went to Spain for a week and during that week I "dropped" my habits which I mentioned and I also got kind of cocky - I felt like I'm already recovered but then slowly I was getting urges - which I didn't have since maybe my second month of nofap and eventually I relapsed. To be honest my current streak is so far the longest since I relapsed after that six months of nofap..
     
  7. 6Ste1fan8

    6Ste1fan8 Fapstronaut

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    Guys, I need your help. Last days I've been feeling sexual tension. I would say I'm horny in some way.. Should I fight for another days or do M using sex toy but WITHOUT porn ?
     

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