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  1. about a girl

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    Hi I am new here to nofap and I am very glad to be able to journal my feelings about my bfs addiction it will be greatly appreciated if you comment to help me through this rough patch in my life .... Please excuse my long rant in advance .... The way I found out hmmmm it really wasn't no surprise since porn is pretty much accessible via desktops and smart phones in a tap - tap click I wasn't angry just wanted to see what it was nothing illegal get my drift ? It wasn't " whew " so he tried to kiss me and make the boo boo feel better and it didn't so I ignored the problem but it's still here ( not cool ) I am saddened that although I know variety is the spice of life and pretty girls , attractive woman are in this world no stares at them around me ( not that i noticed ) however he likes to check out naked woman ( ok I get that sort of you see .... ) I am not going to look away if an attractive man was naked in front of me well I like men it makes sense lol I just don't sit in the dark on the comp./ phone rating guys members it's just not how my brain works but that's my brain but my bf has a pmo brain and feel lonely living here with him as he goes off in his man cave :( I am a social butterfly he used to be too now he's plain boring he does have sex with me mostly every day .... I just get the leftovers and I don't think I deserve that :( I am open minded not prudish but he gets this light choke hold on me that freaked me out .... I can't live here with him lonely once he's done with me and I realised I cannot marry him in the future as he wishes to .... Unless he realises this is his problem that he needs to work on and I will be supportive because I love and care about him and pixel gals are not going to care for him like I will , it's all easy to be enthralled by some of these woman but at the end of the day it's just him and his hand . My bf is in denial and will not post here , in fact it would upset him if he knew that I was on nofap .... Btw he said there's nothing wrong looking at womans body parts it is normal for men to look ( ok I get it ) also he was raised in a home with a father that had stacks of playboys and his mom divorced him after 15 yrs of marriage :(
    Thank you for your time reading my first post any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
     
  2. Decoder™

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    Quite the struggle. First thing I should say is that we, men, get very defensive on these intimate situations.

    I know how badly you want to see a change in him, but let he make the first step. Be mysterious about some simple things, it will get his attention and release a bit of the pressure he gets when being so defensive.

    One thing that I've learned and it's happening in my life right now is that: If you change yourself to embrace healthy habits and live a fulfilled life, your loved ones will somehow notice those aspects and be more receptive towards you. Then you can indirectly slip some tips that'll get him on the right track.
     
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    @GL Lucid :) hey there and thank you ! I do have a question though if you don't mind , as an example of something mysterious simple hmmmm what can you recommend?
    I was thinking of moving out without ending the relationship perhaps ? I apologise for being so clueless in this matter :( Thanks again and have a great day ! :)
     
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    Never seen this coming! I have become the porn police ! I find myself always calling to him for helping me with something or walking in on him for stupid questions however I don't bother with the search history he is always in the Incognito mode .... However when were planning our anniversay a few years ago i noticed an e.mail from a pornstar he said it was sent as a mistake I had no case mistakes happen i let that slide and enjoyed our day such a shame this became a stupid cat and mouse game that I don't want to play :(
     
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    Alright, he must know some tasks you hate doing right? Bring youself to a confident persona and let him know that you'll handle it by yourself. If not already, sign a gym membership and if that's not possible research on doing calisthenics. They produce great results, doesn't require specific equipment and you do it on your home. Start being more asertive on the decisions that do not unbalance the relationship much. It could be: "Oh, you're not in the mood. Get some rest. I'll call some friends to see if they would like to hangout." Maybe you can too start taking cold showers like me..
     
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    @GL Lucid it's like you read my mind I love yoga and will be doing that and meditation .... I used to run/jog and became too thin I would like to maintain my weight and be Healthy !!!! In my mind and body .... I lived in the city apartments back in the day and dealt with cold showers you gotta be quick and make sure you have a warm towel ready ;) He is very easily upset with me today I don't understand why ???? I can't wait for the next hockey game I love it and I feel great when my team wins !!!! How are you feeling today , if you don't mind me asking ?
     
  7. Decoder™

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    Although the counter tells that I'm on a moderate streak, I'm still learning to cope with the downs of life.

    I had some random business to deal with today but didn't quite find it worth to strive for it. Guess what? Parents judged my actions.

    I conversed with them many times how this whole process is changing my character and traits. I'm also on meds due to anxiety / depression back in the day.

    But with the mistake came a sense of a strong concept I like to guard to myself. I am the ONLY one in charge of my emotions. my mind does not find a nuisance in other people's uncovenient comments. (Partially I can say that it benefits on more than a few situations.)

    Oh well.. I've been so much unproductive today. I must steady my pace towards recovery.
     
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    @GL Lucid hey maybe we can help each other with the downs of life .... I wish I could cheer you up its hard to cheer up when you feel hopeless huh? Don't get discouraged though .... I am reading through many journals on here and we are not alone .... *hugs*
     
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    What a lucky man your bf is. Your way of expressing yourself is lovely.

    This addiction won't get the better of me, I assure you. This I'm on is not a streak, it's a lifestyle.
    When I started this reboot I kinda lived the quote: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer!

    I did a lot of research about how these chemicals function and drive us towards pleasure. It already took some years of my life. That's enough...
     
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    @GL Lucid Awe thank you ! My bf is enjoying pretend time in the other room as I am trying to make sense of his obsession .... Here together in the same place but alone :( You will heal it takes time... Picture our minds like clay it can be sculptured however we decide to sculpt it ....
     
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    You cannot imagine the amount of hours I spent PMO'ing in my computer room, having only a wall between me and the wife watching TV. Many years of it. I used to tell her to choose interesting shows to make me interested to sit with her and watch TV together. Maybe she preferred to watch crappy stuff to keep me in my room...dunno.
    We are sick. I'm clean for 10 days now, but struggling a little bit.

    I like you initial post too. Well said and expressed. Sorry for your suffering.

    Here is my take on it:

    -Light choke hold you mentioned. The dude might be watching some "breathplay" stuff. It's out there. It's definitely not a mainstream sexual fantasy. If you are not comfortable with it, tell him right away. He cannot force his internet fantasies on you.

    -You mention getting the leftovers: Maybe, maybe not. He probably enjoys sex with you. He's just stuck in a continuous flow of stimulus. Just like the heroin addict might not care much for a bottle of alcohol, as he's on "harder stuff". The P surfer will end up seeking harder stuff, more stimulating, borderline troubling, to get his dopamine fix.

    Just like the parachutists that are going for higher altitude each jump, or the dudes that start to jump off buildings for a more hardcore feeling...
    He will heal from that if he reboots...

    -You mention understanding the Porn-induced desire for novelty.. It's the coolidge effect. He's stuck in that addiction and suffering from coolidge. Only "rebooting" will alleviate this craving for different stuff. I remember searching the porn tubes for hours to find a fix of something that felt new to me...then O...then WTF moment, then becomes tasteless in a second. Then you just go away from the computer and go grab some sleep. Some time of your life you never get back.

    -As you might know, the chaser effect, the effect that causes the male that has sex to keep seeking more sex, cause the PMO'er to PMO more. I personally PMO'd 30 minutes after having good sex with the missus, cause I was hit hard by chaser effect.

    Now, your BF seems in denial and its the bad part. He's "sick" we all realize that. Don't take it personal, it has nothing to do with you.
    Stay strong, but the two-way conversation HAS to happen.

    The sad part about the PMO addiction is that men are often waiting for their relationship to be damaged and/or when they start having erectile disorder to wake up, become conscious of their issues and work on it.

    If you can get him to watch a few videos and testimonies on YOURBRAINONPORN.COM, or manage to express that you are shocked and need of a change, you might get him to awake quicker.

    I sure hope you'll manage to do that.

    In my case, I waited until my erection became weak with my wife and also until she told me she felt she didnt have what it takes to sexually please me to understand that I was on a very slippery and treacherous slope....

    Good luck!
     
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    Thank you @Ikindaknew I fell asleep finally I spent hours upon hours reading through journal after journal it's really quite sad how the porn industry has got it made .... These more popular porn stars live a luxurious life driving beautiful cars or chauffeured and traveling to beautiful places while those waste their lives away for what in the end a nice O and it is just another addiction like gambling, drugs etc it ruins lives breaks loved ones hearts :(
     
  13. Ikindaknew

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    This is why I'm glad I found this site, that provides us with a better idea of what Porn is and what it causes. The truth has to come out!
    Porn is around for many years. The offering and temptation for some people always been around. But since the arrival of high-speed internet, custom tailored porn is available at the click of a button. Also, it has the same effect crack cocaine or meth had on the streets when it came out..flooding the streets to highly addictive and cheap stuff that quickly makes you become a zombie...

    Personally, I always brushed aside the popular porn stars and everything looking "too perfect". I didn't have time for it. It was like looking at something all staged. Maybe unconsciously I realized that that stuff was fake. That porn industry is aware of all our weaknesses and exploits them big time. There is small time amateur porn actresses (cam girls, or running a website as autonomous workers) taking "fantasy requests" from paying customers tailoring exactly to their customer's needs. Myself, I never paid anything for online Porn.

    I spent many hours to scour sites to find "reality-looking" amateur-only clips. I couldn't tolerate plastic surgery. I know that in real life, women bodies are suffering from the effects of gravity, just like I'm getting a belly. I was more into "hubby shares with" stuff. I searched to find the very few clips that led me to believe they were the real stuff. In reality, I would never ever ask or let my loved one do something like that with somebody else. I don't want to share!!!!! I would NOT let it happens. That would kill me. Still, this is the stuff giving me my fix....and I sank many hours into it.

    That porn addiction is like the plague....and it leaves suffering in it's wake. Last night, I was pillow-talking to the wife, explaining to her that I felt like starving, knowing that the food was only a click away. But you are done eating that stuff, you know it it was cheap fast food bad for you...

    Now I just hope that the fact that I don't PMO will make the wife happier and hopefully more willing to "get close".

    Have a good day!
     
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    Mc Donalds is everywhere and smells real good especially when you're hungry .... Get carried away with it and your health is in jeopardy even if it doesn't show on the outside .... Ah, but the healthy food isn't quite as tempting however it does have benefits! qualities that we forget about also its so damn time consuming to prepare those healthy meals nothing like a quick drive thru at Mc Donalds and be done with it .... Thank you for taking the time to reach out to me .... I looked at some of these woman of porn and then the men of porn and it seems they are ageless most definitely getting younger as we all get older .... I walk out the door and I see 2 joggers a man and woman briefly as they pass and they look natural not perfect most important real .... I woke up feeling ugly I never felt that way before I was always told you're gorgeous by men and woman those words don't carry so well today .... We all get old porn stars keep getting younger .... I can't believe how insecure I feel .... I must get help for my minds sake if I ever have a daughter or even a son I would never want their self esteem washed down the drain because of porn :(
     
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    You are most probably as beautiful as before. Believing you're ugly is caused by the backlash caused by comparing yourself. My wife suffers from that too. That's bad cause the wife is 50 yo and she seen some pop ups with chix aged 20yo or average...those autopopups are not even what i was looking at...anyway. Don't forget that some teenage girls starve themselves just tot look like mannequins in those fashion mags....and porn is not involved. trying to reach a hollywood fashion standard, or a porn bimbo standard is NOT healthy.
    You are as nice as the other are seeing you. You are just hurting yourself when you unfairly judge yourself based on P standards...DON'T.

    I guess P destroys both the fapper and the spouse (victim) self-esteems.
    BTW, I caught my daughter PM'ing accessing P on her phone a few years ago. Door wasn't fully closed. I couldn't believe it. My wife told me at the time...god IT SEEMS TO BE IN YOUR DARN DNA!!!! She's gonna be a porn perv just like her Dad...

    Keep it up, you're not to blame and definitely not the cause of the BF's addiction.
     
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    @Ikindaknew
    That wasn't nice what your wife said .
    Believe me when I tell you I want to say mean hurtful things to my bf but where would that get me ? He would still be addicted to porn and nothing changes. I need to go forward and find myself some therapy this experience has left me feeling fearful what I'm actually trying to say is if you break off a relationship you
    mourn for a period it ended and move on to perhaps a new relationship .... I am nervous that this will happen again .... I lost trust in men :(
     
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    Girl,

    You are really hurting. This addiction caused damage to your soul. You may want to discuss that with a professional if its available to you. Work on yourself, treat yourself, re-learn to love yourself. You can find a good book about positive thinking and about how to re-gain your self esteem. Do it you deserve it. Are you married? Do you have any financial commitment with that guy? Are you considering leaving him?

    That porn addiction will become more common as we go. Us here on the forum are now familiar with that addiction. There is many others out there. When you date someone, you don't know if the person is addicted to something. It's a matter of time before you figure it out. I'm pretty sure almost every young men thru its puberty, with access to a computer has watched porn or eventually will do it. Will it become an addiction? Maybe maybe not.

    Trust me, if the boyfriend was addicted to drug use or alcohol, even gambling, you would be nervous that a relapse could happen.
    The gambler could burn his paycheck at the slot machines leaving you with a jar of peanut butter for food.
    The alcoholic would maybe pass out, tell you nasty things, lose his driver license or his job, beat up somebody (some a more agressive than others)
    The druggie could burn the paycheck and disappear for a few days.

    So nervousness is normal. You can break up and end a relationship and fall in love with somebody else that might one day develop an addiction. A good example is somebody involved in a car crash, has pain, be given painkillers and gobs those like its out of style. One can develop an addiction at that point.

    My mom got married 3 times. All three times I swear, she married a short man wearing glasses. LOL. Its a true story. Mom seems to have a pattern.
    Some people leave an alcoholic to end up with another one.

    As for the trust in men, trust is something that develops with time and respect. Not all men are good, not all men are bad. Not all are porn addicts, but most men love sex quite a bit. That thirst of men for sex is well documented:

    http://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare


    I remember you said that you gave plenty of sex to your BF, so you are not at fault anyway. You didnt "create" a starvation pattern with him. It's not your fault. But the average joe need sex more often than the average lady. That being said, the likeliness to have a man looking at porn to compensate is higher...

    We have no statistics, but my guess is that there is a hole lot more men addicted to PMO than women. You might want to read sories from women addicted to porn on this forum, theirs stories will show you that its not a male-only issue, its a sex drive issue mixed with the desire to access the sex quickly. Now its available at the screen.
     
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