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"I decided that I'm going to become celibate."

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by mv8652, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. mv8652

    mv8652 Fapstronaut

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    I haven't posted in a while, so I want to bring y'all up-to-date and announce a new commitment to which by my fellow fapstronauts can hold me accountable.

    On September 15, I completed 90 days porn-free, 143 days masturbation-free, and 182 days orgasm-free; and, having done so, I declared myself "REBOOTED" in a red and yellow sign across my avitar. Having never believed that there was anything inherently wrong with healthy masturbation in the presence of self-control and the absence of porn, and considering my former compulsions, I decided to just take it slowly and see what might develop.

    Before NoFap, I'd often watch mild porn (nude photos, or video of solo acts at most), but I very seldom masturbated to it and was never addicted to doing so. My thing was that I was an edger. Greatly prolonged and frequently repeated masturbation without orgasm had been my sex act of choice.

    After declaring my reboot complete, I lasted all of three days before I resumed edging of the very lightest sort, and I decided that it wasn't a problem. I did it only once per day for eight days, but then I stopped for seven more, because I wanted to avoid any risk of an accidental release until I'd completed 200 days without any ejaculation or orgasm (not even a wet dream). I reached that milestone on October 3, and so I intentionally released. The orgasm was unrewarding at best, so I went back to non-ejaculatory edging; but my edging soon became obsessive. I still hadn't looked at porn. By the middle of last week, I was looking at nude photos for hours and doing a lot of edging (but not at the same time). On Friday, I gave myself my second unfulfilling orgasm in seven months and immediately wished that I hadn't. On Saturday (yesterday), I edged off and on all day and watched some solo videos (but still not at the same time).

    I've edged some today, but I haven't felt very proud of myself. I'm not beating myself up, but I've come to the realization that I can't handle any dopamine at all! I thought about when I might go back onto no-PMO (November 1 perhaps). After all, I already know how to live fap-free and have done so for months, even learning to like it; but I realize that the next challenge needs to be open-ended, else I'm wasting my effort. All I need is to muster the inspiration/motivation to do it. To that end, I went on a marathon viewing of NoFap and similar videos on YouTube. They're good, but I wasn't finding the genuine excitement that I felt when I first signed on as a new fapstronaut last spring--been there, done that, etc., etc.

    Then, I happened upon an October 12 video by the respected young black Canadian fitness idol "strengthOVERsize," who has occasionally talked about NoFap. In it, he announced a "dead serious" decision and commitment to his followers: "I decided that I'm going to become celibate."

    Celibate! The power and implied finality of that word was instantly and overwhelmingly inspiring to me. If he can aspire to that, then I can too! Without delay, I'm taking no-PMO to the next level. (For me, there is no functional difference between Hard Mode no-PMO and total celibacy, but the latter term seems so much more profound.)

    So, I'm done! Tomorrow, Monday (it's actually past midnight here, but you know what I mean) will be the first day toward my own open-ended celibacy! This time, though, I'm not going to count days. That's a useful tool for newbies, but I feel that achieving a big day count just gave me license to revert to my old ways. I don't want that to happen again.
     
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  2. MrFapOnTour

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    Congrats on your choices.
     
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  3. HomeAlone

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    Hell yeah Bruce Lee!
     
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  4. HomeAlone

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    What do you mean by edging? Whats the difference from celibacy and nofap PMO hardmode?
     
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  6. mv8652

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    By "celibate" in the context of discussing masturbation, I (and I think "strengthOVERsize") mean a stronger and a longer commitment to ending all forms of sexual expression than would be meant by "no-PMO in hard mode" for just a certain number of days. In my case, I need to end masturbation, edging, and use of even mild porn permanently. While there isn't a functional difference on any given day, the long-term goal is very different.
     
  7. Paulie

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    I have also chosen to live the remainder of my life celibate and PMO free.
     
  8. mv8652

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    Congratulations, Paulie on your decision. Having read the Information tab on your profile, I think that it's probably the right one for you. I especially liked what you wrote about the feeling of horniness. It is similar to my current signature line in blue below. I'm still going strong since I returned to indefinite hard-mode fapstinence and began this thread in October. I wake up each morning horny with an urge (and usually wood), but I love my fapstinence so much that I don't even seriously consider fapping. It's something that I just don't do anymore, and that's that!
     
  9. Paulie

    Paulie Guest

    Thanks, and I do like your signature.
    I find that feeling horny no longer causes any temptation to do anything sexual. I find temptation and urges originate in my thoughts. Control my thoughts and there is no temptation.
     
  10. mv8652

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    I differentiate between the physical urges (which is what I call horniness) and the mental temptations. I experience the former, but I do not entertain the latter.
     
  11. Paulie

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    I can feel the sensation of horniness, but that doesn't mean I have sexual urges because of that feeling. If I thinks sexual thoughts then I have the temptations and urges and the horny feeling then would come in to feed those urges. So for, me controlling my thoughts and not allowing sexual thoughts means no temptations or urges. If I find I have a sexual thought I reject it straight away before the thought can take root.
     
  12. Paulie

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    I created a group for people who have chosen to live the remainder of their lives celibate, at this location.
     
  13. Paulie

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    Absolutely, I have no desire for a relationship and never have in all my 48 years, I doubt that will change in the future.
     
  14. Paulie

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    Why is the sky blue? It is just the way I am.
     
  15. mv8652

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    Oh, okay, I'll answer.

    As when I started this thread last October, I'm still committed to "open-ended celibacy." In NoFap terms, I say that I'm practicing no P, M, or O in Hard Mode indefinitely. I haven't vowed that I'll never again give myself another orgasm, but I don't currently foresee any circumstance that might make me do so. I just don't do it anymore! Realistically, I plan to go for at least a year before even entertaining any thoughts otherwise. By that time, all interest in masturbating might have been extinguished by the passage of time. If so, that's fine by me. I've had seven orgasms in the last 365 days--three in January 2015 and one in March before ever formally beginning NoFap, and three in October after I'd finished a long streak and decided to experiment a bit with masturbation. I quickly realized how much I missed abstinence and returned to it. I didn't feel any guilt, but I regretted breaking the great streak that I had going.
     
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  16. I find this so fascinating! :) So explain to me, or us, the reasoning for the decision. It is just because? To prove to yourself and the world that you can do it - something to boast about? Do you have spiritual reasons? Were you addicted to pmo/ sex obsessive?

    Physiologically, our bodies are designed to have sexual functioning, ovaries, testes, penis, vagina, eggs, sperm etc, and for most of us (I recognise that asexuality is a thing) our brains are wired to use those parts. And my view is that we were were given them, well evolution gave it to us as a way to reproduce and form bonding relationships with others. and so it forms an integral part of the human experience. Those of us who are "addicted" or have formed bad habits like edging (regular prolonged periods in an aroused state is not how it was meant to be used) , excessively masturbating, even having excessive amounts of sex.... have abused that system. So the notion of being celibate for ever/indefinitely seems in no way an effective way of managing a natural, practical and enjoyable part of being a human. And doesn't do much to address the reasons why you/we ended up in this situation in the first place. You are essentially actively ignoring it. right? Which is not really ignoring it at all because to ignore something you are just thinking about not doing it at times more than what you would be if you weren't trying to ignore it.

    Addicts don't recover from simply abstaining (look at recovery nation, 12 step, and generally agreed upon among psychologists) they recover by addressing the behaviours that got them addicted in the first place.

    Anyway, my two cents. But we are all different and if your resolve is telling you that this is the way forward, then props to you :) :)
     
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  17. Paulie

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    I choose to be celibate and to live a sexually pure life because it makes me feel awesome. ego has no part in it. Just because we have a physiological capability does not mean we have engage is that function. We have legs but that does not mean we have to run. Sexual purity for me while not a religious thing it is spiritual, being sexually pure makes my heart sing.

    In the past I was a massive porn masturbation/edging addict. I would spend up 5 or 6 hours everyday engaged in edging and masturbating to porn. Life was a sad thing back then. In the past after repeated attempt and long periods of no porn or masturbation, the longest period was 14 months, I would try masturbation again, but I would loose control and fall back into my old ways. I was far happier when I was not masturbating or watching porn. So that is something I am quite happy to give up, it is not something I need or want in my life. Masturbation may give some physical pleasure but it does nothing for the spirit. I gain far more pleasure in my spirit/heart from living PMO free. As I have stated above I am a virgin and have never had any desire to be with another romantically or even for casual sex, it is just the way I am wired. so it is a good choice for me to choose celibacy because I love being sexually pure. Being sexually pure makes my heart sing.
     
  18. For reasons that make sense to you, make sense to me :)

    You are right, as self aware beings, we do have the ability to choose what we engage with. I suppose we could make the choice to not walk at all if we really wanted to!

    Good luck Paulie! And fantastic to see that green crown under your avatar :D
     
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  19. Paulie

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    I am glad it makes sense, it is often hard to explain it in a way that can be understood.

    I believe this site can help many, many people so they deserve our support, $10 a month is not a lot of money, that's like the cost of a couple of cups of coffee here in Australia so it's not a huge expense to help support this site.
     
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  20. exactly!

    I think you explained it well enough. It makes you feel like a better person to abstain, and you said you are not interested in having a romantic relationship with someone or sex with another in general.... and if that works for you and that is the future you want then... it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

    I just said what I said, because over the years I have seen many men abstain for the wrong reasons, and go into it with out proper thought ultimately doing nothing nothing for abolishing their addiction or gaining any other benefit.

    Abstaining completely is not something I see in my future, as I have a strong desire to physically and emotionally connect with another, and sex is an important part of who I am. This journey for me is about developing healthy life behaiours and balance - health, mental, and sexual.
     

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