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how to snap out of foreplay mode?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Itsuki, Mar 2, 2024.

  1. Itsuki

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    I resist urges fairly well but, but going past the 20 day mark (I'm day 23) I think I get so subconsciously horny that I unknowingly seek out sexual material. Not porn, but content with underlying themes.

    Now to the point where I'm having "normal" online conversations with people that are rife with sexual subtext. I can say no to an urge and wont touch myself, but I can only give myself blue balls so many times before I break. I know I should delete the conversation and block them to put an end to it, but when I do that I start searching for something else.

    Is it really just discipline? Probably, and I just refuse to except that. What should I do?
     
  2. Hi, what should you do? Good question. I think it depends a bit on your goal or intention, values maybe. For example if you decided to go hard mode then it might be helpful to go for behavior only that support that. If you say, no, I am fine with M every now and then but never P then the hole story already starts to look differently. I hope you get what I mean. Do you mind sharing more of what your plan is, your boundaries you set for yourself, your bottom line?
     
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  3. Itsuki

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    My bottom line is good health. I've noticed that people who are financially and socially successful are not necessarily smarter than I am or more privileged at birth, but that they are incredibly healthy mentally and physically. I figure that these people probably rarely masturbate at all, meanwhile I have been masturbating compulsively for over a decade and am incapable of success.

    I am extremely alone and isolated in my everyday life, so when my goal is no M, no P, it is easy enough until the loneliness sets in. My solitude makes me pursue sexual stimulation (mainly sexting) just for someone who will give me the time of day and talk to me for a few hours. I've since deleted and blocked the chats that could have lead to something and that was harder to do than I would like to admit.
     
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  4. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Do you mind giving some examples?
     
  5. Itsuki

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    Like livestreams when people are making innuendos and a girl is drinking through a draw and stuff like that. Then having a conversation with someone that is menial in the surface but we are really talking about sex in code.
     
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  6. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Yea a get that. Are these convos with people with people you want to sleep with usually?
     
  7. Itsuki

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    Not really. I actively dislike the sexual part while also being tempted by it. I just want someone to talk to.
     
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  8. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    You sound loanly. Maybe stop watching the live streams and texting? Nothing wrong with sexual convos, but I feel it should be with someone you like.
     
  9. Itsuki

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    You're probably right. At this point its better to just wack off one time than to be so pent up.
     
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  10. Thank you for sharing. You are right, people who are more priviledged at birth are not smarter because of that. In fact if you look back you'll find all sorts of examples. Unhappy rich and famous people taking drugs, alcohol and being sex addicts, kids of so called good families lost as well as people from poor families making it to high positions.
    I don't think that socially succesful people are healthy mentally and physically because they are socially succesfull. You and I we can be mentally healthy, physically exercising, keeping mind and body in shape and then be succesful.

    What is worth looking into is what the reason may be for you being extremely isolated and alone in your everyday life. Sounds like you then compensate with acting out in self harming ways which is understandable. We all need to connect somehow. Question would be in what ways can you connect, reconnect to yourself and then others so that you no longer depend on sexting etc.
    You seem to be well aware of the reasons that bring you to acting out. Now my question would be what have you tried or what are you doing or could do that brings you out of this isolation? If you don't mind me asking :)
     
  11. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Do you think you can do it once without binging?
     
  12. Itsuki

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    I haven't done much and I don't know what to do. No girl in her right mind would marry me.
     
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  13. Itsuki

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    yeah, I did it once last month. the next day I had a wet dream but it wasn't too difficult to not binge
     
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  14. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    That's good. It's important not to over stimulus. But just don't use porn. That's why you're here after all.
     
  15. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Don't say that! There is someone out there who would love you very much I'm sure
     
  16. Itsuki

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    I used Instagram... I know people might categorize that as softcore porn, but, really, wanking to a picture of a lady in a tight dress is the smallest evil a guy can manage, isn't it?

    Yeah, probably. I haven't given it a real honest effort but it just feels so weird, you know? Condemning a girl to a life with me... I'm poor, friendless, and have no family. Do you have relationship experience?
     
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  17. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    I wouldn't recommend the ig thing but it seems like it didn't get you to spiral out of control. So maybe it is the smallest evil like you said haha.

    I say give it an honest effort! You may have more to offer than you think. Don't sell yourself so short.

    As far as my experience, I say kind of. I recently lost my virginity and I'm thinking of making her my gf. I think she would say yes if I asked.

    But I couldn't have done that if
    1. I kept watching porn
    2. I didn't take the honest effort

    Not sure if you've experienced this but porn made me floppy dick when I tried to have sex. I needed to cut that stuff out in order to make it work.
     
  18. Itsuki

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    Has there ever been a guy who has never had sex and never masturbated, and is just ok without?

    Are you a new person now? Does life make sense now? Still a virgin so I'm curious. How was it?

    Yeah gotta stop watching porn and have the balls to talk to a girl you like for sure.
     
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  19. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Maybe some older men. Would be hard as a young man. Although there are guys here who do the nofap hard mode and monk mode so you can ask them their experience.

    For the most part yes, I feel like a new person. But not drastically. I used to be very religious so overcoming that in order to be in a position to even be willing to have sex changed me more I would say.

    As far as losing my virginity, it helped me a lot with my self esteem. I am basically the same guy but more confident. Girls don't seem as scary to me, and I didn't realize how scared I used to be until I lost it. And not to knock virgins, but it does feel a bit like I entered the adult world.

    The sex itself was fine. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would. But I figure it'll only keep getting better with more practice.

    Life doesn't make sense haha. Finding the meaning to life is a journey we will never complete.

    For sure. I used online dating to find my woman. Try it if you haven't already.

    And if there is someone you know already that you want to date, don't hesitate to ask them. You don't want another man taking her before you get the chance.

    One thing I would say to "have the balls" is to remember that the whole thing should feel fun. Ultimately, that's why you are trying to have sex. So if you are too nervous, it won't be fun. Just ask her out to somewhere you like and enjoy your time. The sex will come. You got this!
     
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  20. No girl? I mean NONE at all? None that there are on this planet? How do you know? And why marry right away? What about getting to know one first? ;)
     
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