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How to Beat the Hijack?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by RayJay01, Sep 7, 2018.

  1. RayJay01

    RayJay01 Fapstronaut

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    I'm 28 and been trying to quit porn for 8 years. I have such severe procrastination and impulse control issues that I lost a full-ride scholarship, dropped out of college, and am stuck living on welfare. I'm almost positive that its caused by porn. Yet, I still can't stop. When the urge hits, it drowns out everything else. Sometimes it comes as obsessional thoughts, other times the reasons I want to quit don't even occur to me. If they do, it's not strong enough to make me stop. I feel like a prisoner in my own head. I know enough about neuroscience to know that this is a very strong limbic hijack. Porn is so prevalent that you can get to it no matter how strong your internet filter is. For God's sake, there's porn on Ebay and YouTube! On the other hand, it's not really possible to completely get rid of the internet and still function in today's world. How do I help my conscious mind to stay in control?
     
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  2. RayJay01

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    Thanks for the reply. It's nice to hear from someone. I was born with a physical disability, and my mind is really my one asset. I feel like porn is robbing me of it. I literally can't hold down a job or pursue my dreams, because its damn near impossible to maintain any kind of discipline. And yet, as soon as an urge hits, all that goes out the window. It's like a demonic possession or something.
     
  3. RayJay01

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    It sounds like you and I are stuck in the same catch-22. We need the internet to function, but its also our Achilles heel. I'm also self-employed, or at least trying to be. I've done some freelance writing on Upwork, but I keep dropping out on clients because I just can't bring myself to do the work. It's not so much that the urges get in the way, but chronic procrastination and indecisiveness due to porn-induced hypofrontality. At least I have social security to fall back on, but that's another catch-22. It's always there, so you just get dependant on it. I downloaded k9 and started systematically blocking avenues to porn. It looks like I'm going to have to block YouTube and Ebay, But I buy a lot of legitimate things on ebay, and there's educational videos and lectures on YouTube that I watch. I'd hate to lose that functionality, Not to mention I need to get rid my android because I can't find an applocker that I can't bypass. I block one avenue, and the "other me" finds another. Its like playing 3-dimensional chess with myself.
     
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  4. DAAANNGGG! I'm 28 and have been trying to quit for 8 years. Crazy! I think this porn addiction really hit a lot of our generation given high-speed internet came out when we were growing up.

    As for the beating the craving, I am at a loss. My best resource so far has been to just avoid being home alone with the computer/internet. For example, when I am at a public library, I NEVER look at porn. Similarly, if I am at an event, school, work, the gym, you name it, I NEVER look at porn. I wouldn't even think to look at porn. Seems simple enough right, just don't go on the internet while at home. Well, I've been trying to do that and keep slipping up.
     
  5. zadvanceppa

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    I come so close to relapse so often!!! Have been lucky enough to log in here instead of porn. It is crazy. I'm thinking of a small personal tattoo or permanent mark to place on my hand to remind myself in case of my inevitable slip up.What should it be where if someones sees it and asks; I have a good excuse to have it there?
     
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  6. RayJay01

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    I guess it comes down to a balance between recovery and functionality. ou block too much of the internet, it interferes with your ability to lead a normal life. Even if I could completely block porn, I would still be MOing, so its like where do you draw the line?

    I'm not sure you could call my life "normal" right now though. I spent nearly all day yesterday scouring youtube for porn substitutes. Even though my connection was slow and it was freaking frustrating, I just couldn't let it go. I feel so pathetic, like some kind of crack addict. the urge is so relentless that even though I might start off fighting it my willpower just gets eroded.
     
  7. Mindful wolf

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    Tried the same b fucking nothing works
     
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    Seriously isn't there any one who can really help us all... We all are going into a deep trouble n this is only platform where we are for a hope that something will work out.... I've been addicted from past 10 years, I don't watch porn 5 days a week as soon as the weekend arrives I just loose the Control n just I masturbate 6-7 times in two days. I live alone in my room, nothing goes without phone, people say when u feel urge do this, that but it does not works...I m feeling just completely helpless, have been going through tons of videos forum to get help but nothing work, the same as this.
     
  9. RayJay01

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    Just PMO'd to yourtube. I can't even make it one day. I have k9 installed on my computer. It has a feature that lets you block internet access for a certain number of hours each day. I'm going to block all but a few hours each day. I guess that's what its going to take for me. I obviously can't do that the rest of my life, but I need to give my brain a break for at least a couple of weeks. Basically home-made rehab.

    Are you in the states, Freshstart? Maybe we can exchange info and help each other.
     
  10. You could try what I'm doing at the moment. I keep asking myself, "Is this bullshit?"

    For example, if I get an urge or a rationalisation, or even a negative thought, I ask "Is this bullshit?"

    And it usually is lol.
     
  11. MasterRoshi

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    What’s so crazy about this disease is that even the most knowledge and reasoning won’t stop the addiction cycle. The good news is there are solutions especially when money for therapy is a problem. First off there are sliding scale therapy clinics in most counties. Prices change depending on your income. Also there are 12 step prrograms which are free! I attend SAA. And I work the 12 steps using the AA Big Book.

    As you already figured out porn blockers can always be broken. I know one person who just went to Best Buy and purchased a new phone and then went to a cafe to watch porn. So there’s no escaping it. And forcing it to go away doesn’t work.

    Here’s the test of an addict. First, can you stop once you start? And second, once you stop cancyou stay stopped? If both are true then you’re addicted.

    Therapy + SAA meetings + working the 12 steps with a sponsor using the AA Big Book + rigorous honesty about all your problems + journaling daily + meditation + exercise + focus and intent = sobriety for me (and many others)

    Good luck and I’m happy to help!
     
  12. RayJay01

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    Before I respond, I just want to say, I love your avatar/screenname. Dragonball z was my favorite show growing up.

    I was in a 12-step program for several years. It never did any good. Accountability just never was enough for me. I think there's a level of active addiction addiction that even 12-step programs can't help and you basically need rehab before it will be effective. I can't afford rehab, so I don't know what to do.
     
  13. RayJay01

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    I'm in basically the same place. The only thing I know to tell you is to get rid of the old tablet and try again. Keep blocking avenues until there's nothing left. I'll be sure to post here if I find something that works.
     
  14. MasterRoshi

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    Many people misunderstand 12-step programs. It’s not the fault of anyone. It’s due to a cultural phenomena within meetings and years of misinterpretation being passed down over the years.

    Now I am definitely not and advocate of only 12-step. Even in the first aa big book edition written, they mention the need to seek outside helpcas well.

    However, 12 step programs are not really about accountability, although this is one piece of the puzzle. Aside from learning to live with some sort of spirituality, there is a huge emphasis in doing therapeutic writing that tears out our problems by the root.

    This part of it has been forgotten by many over the years cuz it’s much more dificult to do a path of self discover and intense therapeutic healing compared to showing up toca meeting talking about your problems and drinking coffee.

    According to the aa literature the first many members all stayed sober and recovered from addiction, now it’s down to 2% or something like that. I believe this is due to a lack of understanding and confusion spread by many members among other reasons.

    For me 12 step and therapy and nofap and family have all played a huge role in my recovery but it required a multipronged approach and 12 step was huge in uncovering the dirt that needed to be cleaned up.

    If you have any questions about 12 step and how it’s suppose to be done vs how most do it, lmk. Hope this helps clarify somewhat how 12 step is suppose to work.
     

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