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Getting over betrayal and lies linked to porn- wife of fapstronaut.

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Meowkowski, Jun 27, 2014.

  1. Meowkowski

    Meowkowski Fapstronaut

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    Hi all.

    I wanted to ask if anybody out there had some tips about being able to trust my husband again after 3 or so years of lies and secretive porn addiction. (We've been together 5) My husband lied about his porn, when I found out and was very hurt about both porn and lies, he swore he wouldn't ever lie about it again. A year or so later I found more porn on a secret reddit account he had created for the purpose. He said he'd relapse and lied about it for a year. This meant a huge blow to my trust in him, though the fact that he has told me it's an addiction, something that makes him ashamed and not act himself explains it, I still feel a wrenching in my gut when I think of the lies he has told me to my face (when I found the porn I asked him calmly if he had relapsed, to give him the opportunity to tell me if he had, and he lied easily to my face).
    I love my husband more than anything, and want most of all to begin trusting him again like I used to, so that I can believe that he will get better, be honest, etc...
    I feel like an asshole when I don't believe his convictions, unsupportive and just sick wit myself.
    It just rips me up, when I think of how easy it is for him to lie to me.
    Does anyone have any tips or anecdotes about regaining trust and faith in a fapstronaut? Or any stories from fapstronaut about trust and lying?

    Thank you, stay strong!
     
  2. Hi Meowkowski,

    Sorry to hear about your situation.

    Maybe counselling would be a good path for you and your husband to embark on? That's really all I can suggest. It might be a good healing process for the marriage.

    Try not to be too hard on him. Remember that we all have our faults and things that we are trying to perfect in our lives.

    All the best.
     
  3. Jalus

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    Meowkowski, I feel that gut wrenching pain to, but from the other end--all those lies I've told the people I hold most dear. You have every right to feel the way you do, but I'm glad you're reaching out for help.

    It seems like in all the internet browsing I've done over the years about porn addiction etc., for every two people looking for help stopping their addictions, there's a hurting spouse also in need. I don't think nofap was made with vicitms of fapstronauts in mind, but I'm sure there's a bit you could learn here. First off, please understand that your husband is an addict. This isn't him getting back at you for something, or because he doesn't care about you, but all those lies and shit he's done, yeah, all of us on here would just shake our heads because we see it in our own lives all too often--takes one to know one.

    Understand also that for every lie he's told you, there's a hundred more he's told himself. Even if he admits he struggles with porn, he's going to lie to himself that he's not addicted and can quit whenever.

    That last important lie you're going to encounter is the lie that he doesn't love you. The vast majority of all spouses who struggle with this actually love their significant others and families. If there's one thing you can learn from this forum, learn this.
    See here:
    http://www.nofap.org/forum/showthread.php?14547-Telling-my-wife-tonight
    http://www.nofap.org/forum/showthread.php?15341-Where-do-i-even-start

    And there's plenty of other stories. Browse the threads a little and maybe get some insight into your husband's world.

    So trust. That's not going to be easy. The equation for trust is this: Time + Truth = Trust. What truth? The truth that he's open to you about his actions. The truth that he's taking a step forward to overcome his struggles. The truth that you're willing to have faith in him.

    I'm not sure how much I can help, so I did a quick google search and found these pages that might give you some clarity and support:
    http://www.pornaddicthubby.com/index.html
    http://www.covenanteyes.com/2011/11/15/7-questions-wives-of-porn-addicts-often-ask-part-2-of-3/
    http://www.covenanteyes.com/2010/03/04/when-love-has-to-get-tough/

    I think the bottom two would be very helpful for you. I'm not trying to send you away, just looking for something more specific to your situation. If you need somewhere to vent your frustrations and anxieties, or have more questions, please use this forum as often as you need. I think it helps us fapstronauts to see this thing from other eyes.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2014
  4. Finalfight123

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    I hate to say it but its really up to him. I mean I wish I could say this and that but the addict has to want to quit more than anything else than he will quit but if he feels looking at it and having you is easy to do then why go through the pain of withdrawals. He will lie, he will deny and he will be somewhat distant. But if he truly wants to quit then he will.

    I wish I had a girlfriend as supportive as you. But all you can do is be supportive its his fight his battle. Good luck to the both of you it will be long and hard but I'm sure he's worth it just take it one day at a time.
     
  5. 123@@@

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    Think about the reason why he lied to you.
    I myself think that you husband lied because he loves you. He tries not to hurt your heart. He hopes that his wife has a perfect husband. That's why he lied. I think he is struggling and failing.
    Communicate with him.

    God bless you two.
     
  6. Dolphinsman01

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    Meokowski,

    Thank you for posting. Your husband is me. I don't know how to help, I can't even help myself. I can say this I bet your husband loves you deeply. I can't even tell you how much I love my wife. I didn't start fapping till 3 years ago. We've been married 7. I haven't told her. It would destroy her. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I want to tell her because I need her help but like i said if I tell her it will destroy her. I bet this is how your husband feels. Thanks again for posting.
     
  7. Meowkowski

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    Thanks Jalus,
    These links were interesting and helpful. I guess the conflicting feeling of feeling like a victim, but also like the cause of the addiction ( not good enough, not sexual enough) or like I'm bullying him into thinking he has a problem when it's just my own insecurities getting in the way ( which I was told over and over again by redditors went I'd post their seeking advice)... A really comforting thing, and something that has helped me want to become involved in my husbands recovery, is realising that it isn't me exaggerating or being jealous etc...that if you're partner cannot stop doing something that hurts you deeply ( lying, watching porn, hiding etc...) then you shouldn't grin and bare it. I tried and it made me so so sad. Thanks to you and others like you, I feel confident, like I can help him move towards a healthier lifestyle. So thanks.
     
  8. Meowkowski

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    Dear dolphinsman01,

    All I can say is that my husband never told me, but eventually I found out. And how much I wished my husband would have told me. I have him the chance to come clean and he lied to my face, and I'm not sure how I'll ever forget that moment, how I'll ever see him the same way after that. I cannot stress how important it is, not only to be honest with your wife, but to have her there by your side to help you. If you want to be more expansive I'll try to answer your questions about how you could go about the best you can...
    If you love your wife like you say you do, stop disrespecting, humiliating and deceiving her. Treat her with the honour and love and respect she deserves, you never know, she may be a lot more badass than you think.
    Just like you can lie, and watch porn and still love your wife, she can see your lies and your porn use and still love you. It may be a test,but it will work in your favour that you are doing your utmost to stop PMOing. So get on track, get a steak up, then sit her down when you have tons of time to be together and talk and tell her everything.

    It will be way way worst for her to find alone one rainy Sunday night like I had to.
     
  9. Meowkowski

    Meowkowski Fapstronaut

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    He does love me, I doubted it, but don't doubt that now.
    I just cannot see myself ever lying to him like he did to me.
     
  10. Meowkowski

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    I'll do my best to be nicer and more understanding, unfortunately silent movie tears aren't the reality of heartbreak. Heartbreak snarls and unfurls from within you like hatred. Only when I beg him to answer why he did can I see the heartbreak that lives in his eyes too.

    Not sure therapy is the right thing for us, we need to sort this out amongst ourselves, as this is the only problem we've ever had within our marriage, everything else is blissful happiness.
     
  11. stygian

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    You are not the cause of his addiction and this had nothing to do with any inadequacies that you might think you have, but actually don't.

    I think the question is, why is he lying? The people who struggle with PMO addiction confide in others because they want to defeat the addiction and they need the support. He is clearly not trying to protect you because you already know about the addiction. So it seems to be that he does not want to give it up, and by not telling you he was hoping to continue the behavior. So what is going on that is so important that he needs to keep this up? Have you had a serious discussion with him? Has he started becoming honest after you discovered what he was doing? Either he is in denial that there is a problem, or there is some other reason that he is not being truthful.
     
  12. My wife knows about my addiction and has expressed readyness to talk always when urges are coming up.
    However the reason I don't tell my wife when I feel those nasty desire is my deep need that she is proud about me.
    This shameful addiction is the opposite of a strong and reliable men, which I wanna be for her. I sometimes just can't bear that she sees this ugly side because it would rightfully destroy her pride in me.
     

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