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Getting it out of your system

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Zman99, Mar 16, 2024.

  1. Zman99

    Zman99 Fapstronaut

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    I know this is Nofap so I apologise to the hardmoders. But say if I’ve got a deep routed problem with sex workers which developed into trans sex and femdom putting myself in a financial mess. Surely it’s better when I get the urges to see a sex worker to relieve myself sexually 2-3 times to porn or fantasy to eliminate the urge and chaser and save myself from more debt
     
  2. UlyssesResists

    UlyssesResists Fapstronaut

    You may need to see a counselor with that type of behavior. The problem with masturbation and porn is that it's never enough. As an addict you will always want more. Fantasy leads to masturbation, which leads to porn, which leads to more acting out. You know your triggers, avoid them. But the big lie is that you have to release or you will act out. You don't have to release, you can actually hold it. Other men here are doing that, and you can too.
     
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  3. Zman99

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    Thanks I tried it for years holding it in and doing a good load of month stints and 2 x 53 dayers. But the relapses would be hard followed by depression and more self punishing porn and sex for “ failing my stint” The actual holding it in for a while and then releasing turned into a stronger kick. I’ve seen about 11 counsellors tried groups all sorts. I have some mental health issues and don’t see what putting more pressure on myself trying to hold back nature is going to achieve other than wanting a fight and to premature ejaculate. It’s not going to fix adhd or bipolar where the lack of dopamine production and hyper sexuality is coming from. I was about to book a trans earlier but got off to some p twice and I look at them after and just see men in fancy dress but with a sack full and a trigger I see something far more enticing.
     
  4. UlyssesResists

    UlyssesResists Fapstronaut

    bipolar. Sounds like you may be having manic episodes with your acting out. Are you taking any meds? My mom is bipolar and swears by lithium. I went about 6 months with no porn at all, but regular MO to release and get to sleep. But it would always lead to porn relapse when the opportunity was too great (like a business trip). Now that I've learned to abstain from both, I am actually sleeping better than I ever did and able to go on trips without acting out.
     
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  5. Zman99

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    Yea they are flair ups maybe rapid cycling. But there’s loads of grief trauma and stressful job tied up in it all. I’m very productive and will be multi tasking (adhd diagnosed)
    to the extreme with excess energy I will train like a young athlete forgetting I’m getting on a bit with some injuries. I will have confidence in business projects and struggle to settle or know how to relax. Even when I’ve slept sometimes I don’t feel rested but too driven and awake to sleep any more in the morning. My mind will ruminate and obsess about things whether it’s projects or what someone said that was wrong 2 years ago. I feel like I need to escape my mind and don’t feel I know how to let go of it all. It’s almost like I need to go back to the womb. A warm, safe, shaded space where sounds are muffled and I can float. I’m like an animal in bed sometimes. But when I’ve been red lining it with working etc. I found that letting go of control with a skilled soft dom escort felt good and the bigger the release from it all the better. The problem is it can be dangerous letting go of control in a world full of addiction and toxic people. Yea I’m on Olanzapine for the bipolar but have reduced it as was causing OCD systems too
     
  6. 277joe

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    30 and also had issues for years and years with sex workers. Used to have good weeks of not seeing any then would relapse HARD spending more money than if I had just seen a couple escorts during the week. It really messes your brain up because you start seeing the 'holding in the urge' as a bad thing because the relapses are so hard.

    Never saw escorts for sex, was always fetish related stuff. Of course they didn't give me any kind of discount for not having full sex! Was blowing hundreds a month at one point. Sad as I am at the stage in life where I need to be saving money.

    What's changed it all for me is a simple piece of software pre-installed on all iPhones called "screen time". Using screen time I have blocked communication (texts and calls) with any unknown numbers outside of my contacts, restricted the creation of new contacts, blocked escort directory sites and blocked access to my banking apps until after 11pm every day. Along with not taking my wallet out with me this has finally stopped the escort addiction. I was developing all kinds of depression and self-hatred with how much I was compulsively spending on these women.

    I have used password locker site to encrypt a 4 digit screen time PIN which is not memorable and requires a 20 minute puzzle to reveal the code. Deliberately locked myself out of the recovery email address I gave to Apple so I can't "hack" it via that route either.

    Now the last few weeks the worst thing I do is watch porn for a couple hours in the evening or worst case scenario buy some fetish pictures from FB girls. If this gets out of hand I will block paypal sites too using the mighty Apple screen time!
     
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  7. Zman99

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    It can feel like fight club schizophrenia one of you working hard to stop the other one from getting round adult locks etc, I used to even chuckle at the desperate addict when I was in the searching frenzy that the dedicated me had blocked its chances!
     
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  8. 277joe

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    The "Searching Frenzy" is real!! Its a huge part of the addiction for me. It started with visiting my local "red light" area on foot, cruising for girls, that buzz of excitement when you spot a sex worker on the corner, sizing her up, is she attractive, etc. In the dark too, aura of mystery etc. Fuck me, those nights really started this whole thing for me. $20 encounters with these women, the random chance of who I would meet, the cat and mouse with law enforcement patrols in the area, not getting seen handing over money to any girls, the adrenaline, going back to their place, telling them about my secret kinks. Damn. I don't know how any dude in my position could NOT get addicted to that shit. After a childhood of repression and shyness/extreme social anxiety, cruising for hookers was like a crazy wild ride for me!

    I moved town and lost the red light area in the process, so the addiction moved online where inevitably more money was involved, and more potential for scammers/women who don't look anything like their pictures/ripoffs. That's when it went downhill. There was a certain authenticity and vulnerability about finding sex workers on the street which felt more natural to me. Meeting escorts off of websites never felt natural. But it was all I had.
     
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  9. Zman99

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    Yea I used to buzz off the red light district. I got jumped by one of the hookers boyfriends in a set up and took my mobile off me lol. Also got arrested and still went back driving around as it was more risky. I haven’t done it for years now. But did move on to other extreme escorts which I’m doing well with staying away from. I agree the whole hush hush around sex etc as a kid and being shy around women made it very lustful and exciting
     

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