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Getting angry about this stuff

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Ineedhelp321, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. Ineedhelp321

    Ineedhelp321 Fapstronaut

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    I’m past the 100 day mark and I’m getting to the point that I’m getting mad about nofap. I mean that as in the assumption that you are somehow less of a person if you occasionally use porn or that, especially in a relationship, you have to change everything about how you do things in order to either stop watching porn or to atone for the porn you used to watch. I’m reading some of these posts from people saying that no circumstances allow for porn to be used at all, even in long distance situations. Here’s a newsflash to the SOs who think that it’s a bad thing for people to use porn when separated for months at a time: it keeps libido and sexual appetite at bay. I spent a year apart from the woman who is now my wife and I never so much as ogled another woman, and I’ll chalk that up to porn and masturbation. Is it ideal? No. Once you’re reconnected should the porn use stop? Yeah I’d say so. But this assumption that it’s better for a guy to be constantly arroused with no release and no chance to sexually connect with their SO then to pump it out and stay focused on school or training or whatever seems ridiculous. Porn addiction is bad, but using porn to get through a temporary period of separation is fine as far as I’m concerned. I’m even willing to concede that when there isn’t sex happening and you two are in the same house porn should be off limits; my wife just had our second child last week and I haven’t used porn despite being constantly on edge sexually watching my wife walk around the house with her tits out.

    Maybe I’m just being a little bitch. Meh.
     
  2. lady88

    lady88 New Fapstronaut

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    If you are committed to not PMO with your spouse around then I say you should be committed to not PMO when you are away or not getting sex as well. Restarting to PMO will eventually start to cause the same or more problems that led you to choose not to PMO. I honestly believe that PMO does not keep your sexual appetite at bay. I personally think you are giving yourself an excuse to PMO. That’s why I am saying to stay committed to PMO no matter what. I keep seeing from other posts how PMO is messing up their life. Why would you want to travel back to the same road that bought you here first? You are doing so well already. Talk to your wife, friends, therapist, someone about your troubles. In the long run, I say you will be more happy and healthy if you stick to not PMO

    I seen this on NoFap Facebook website. That is interesting.
    “You don't have to be addicted to porn to experience negative effects from using it. Even moderate porn use usually isn't "good" for your brain.

    You don't have to be addicted to cigarettes to experience negative effects from smoking. Even moderate smoking usually isn't "good" for your lungs.”
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2018
  3. Ridley

    Ridley Fapstronaut

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    It's okay to be angry, man. Just let it out.
    Also, congratulations on 100 days. That is no small feat.

    I haven't seen that assumption anywhere on this forum. You're obviously not less of a person for occasionally watching porn. Even if you're a porn addict, you're not less of a person for that. Addiction is a very human struggle, and I think it's something that a lot of people go through. If anyone on this forum has tried to make you feel ashamed for your addiction, they're probably lacking in empathy.

    Every relationship is different, and every relationship is going to need to heal from porn usage differently. A lot of people share their relationship struggles with porn addiction on this forum, but that doesn't mean that everything they say applies to your own relationships. As for "changing everything about how you do things", I think that's a load of crap. You don't need to change everything in order to stop watching porn or to heal your relationships. However, you have to change some things. For many of us, porn was filling a big gap in our lives, and we have to learn to fill that gap with something else. It's not enough to just "white-knuckle it" and give up porn. You need to find healthier activities to do instead. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to let go of your hobbies, your relationships, the things you do for fun, or any of the other things that make you who you are.

    As I said before, every relationship is different. For some people, porn is a total deal-breaker in a relationship. For them, being with someone who watches porn (even in long distance situations, etc.) is just not an option because it's too much of an emotional burden on them. Those people aren't wrong for feeling that way. It's just the way they are. Also, it doesn't mean it applies to your own relationships. If your partner is okay with you watching porn, there's nothing wrong with that, either. It's just the way your relationship is. If someone else is telling you that you're doing something wrong in your relationship, you don't have to listen to them. You know your situation, and if you're being honest with your partner and honest with yourself, then I don't think you can really go wrong.

    I don't think that's really a good excuse for using porn. I'm not saying that because I think your partner deserves better, but rather because I think you deserve better. You don't like watching porn. You even said yourself that it's not ideal. Porn isn't an enjoyable experience, so why do it? Porn just keeps you coming back for more. It never makes you feel truly satisfied, it just numbs you and buries your feelings. There's a big difference between satisfying your sexual appetite and "keeping your sexual appetite at bay". Do you really want to treat your libido like a disease, like an inconvenience that has to be disposed of like popping a zit? If I had a choice between having an unsatisfied libido and watching porn to suppress my libido, I'd take the unsatisfied libido every time.

    How does your wife feel about that? And, of equal importance: how do you feel about that? I have a feeling you don't feel so good about it, because you follow that up with:
    You wouldn't say your situation was non-ideal unless you knew there was a better option for yourself.

    I don't think that's an assumption. I actually think that's true. Personally, I think being aroused is fun. It's exciting. It fills me with energy and makes me want to just get out there and do stuff.
    I don't really know what it's like to be away from your SO for a year, but I imagine that was really challenging for you. I don't know what it was like, but I empathize with you nonetheless. Having said that, doesn't watching porn make you feel crappy? I'm just not buying the idea that porn helped you feel better when your partner was away...
    Also, you said this assumption is about what's "better". The important question is: who is it better for? It might not make much of a difference to your partner, and it might not really impact your relationship directly, but doesn't watching porn make you feel worse? Wouldn't it be better for you if you stayed focused on other things instead of watching porn?

    If that's how you really feel, I'm not going to argue with you. It's your life, and you can do what you want with it. I feel a lot better when I don't watch porn, even if I am just by myself all horny and aroused, but if that's not the case for you I'm not going to doubt your experiences.

    I don't think so. However, it sounds like you're going through a tough time sexually right now. I've been in a few long-term relationships before, and in all of them I've gone through periods of time where my partner wasn't very interested in sex. That can be really hard. I get that. I'm glad you're here, and I'm glad you're still committed to a porn-free life. In time, I think you'll realize how free you are without porn, and one day you'll look back and wonder why you even watched it in the first place.
     
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