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Gay thoughts? What has happened to me?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Jreeze2015, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. frankied

    frankied Fapstronaut

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    Bro relax !

    I've had the same, and still have it at some times, but i notice that these kind of thoughts go away the longer i don't watch porn. I am now on day 21 for the second time in 8 years, and i can finally feel my old self coming back, actual attraction to other girls. Ocasionaly i get the gay thought, but i know it's because of the porn i used to watch. your story is almost excactly the same as mine, i was really confused as well, but just chill out, don't watch porn for a long time and you will see that you are attracted to girls, and if not, who the fuck cares ?!

    peace
     
  2. Arley

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    And actually estrogen has nothing to do with being gay … there is something called lutenizing hormone which is involved with estrogen but it actually has the opposite effect you think it does. When given estrogen in lab tests, gay men's physiology responded differently in terms of lutenizing hormone than straight men did.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/21/us/homosexual-study-cites-hormone-link.html
     
  3. Diesel74

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    The homonal levels in the womb help determine the sex of a child. Perhaps hormonal changes in the womb over the gestation period effect the sexuality of the child. With consumers using more estrogenizing products that tilt the balence to the more feminine, you see more feminine men and more gay men. Its a proven fact that men average levels of testosterone is declining. I think are seeing a increase in the number of gay men...but as of now, I can not back that up.
     
  4. Arley

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    Well, I can't help but detect a note of paranoia in your comments with the use of the word "exponential". It's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that we have do in fact have exponential population growth world wide and at the same so much more homosexuality (per capita). Seems like there must be a lot of heterosexuality going on to have all those babies. I assume you'll say something like the third world, where most of the population growth is happening, isn't affected by this rise in homosexuality. IDK … Asians have been eating a lot of soy for a long time and yet still lots of straight people around ...
     
  5. Diesel74

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    Im a paranoid guy! Ive been fapping for 20+ years. Lol yes, I think its intentional. There is a reason the government subsudizes soy production. This guy grew breasts because of of soy milk.

    http://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/soys-negative-effects

    Asians actually have the highest testosterone of men but also have the lowest bioavailabilty.
     
  6. Arley

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    Um yeah ... There's also reasons the government has been subsidizing and insuring almost all big agriculture for years. Economics.
     
  7. Arley

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    Also, soy doesn't make anyone gay ... I tell you who have "reasons" to do things. People like Alex Jones spout all this stuff and then in the sidebar of his website there's s bunch of products to conteract all these things like his "super make vitality" product. Not to mention just the hits he gets because the things he is saying is so sensational and tabloid that people can't help listening.
     
  8. Arley

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    People love to draw esoteric conclusions from random facts ... It's evolutionary psychology's "pattern recognition" being distorted by people on the Internet. I'm not saying all conspiracy theories are wrong, I am saying that it seems like people gravitate toward the ones that are least likely to be true however.
     
  9. Diesel74

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    Depends on the intellect of the paranoid individual. You can have smart parnoid men and dumb ones. Sometimes they are right and some they are misled.

    I used to big into conspiricies when I was fapping regularly but, I mostly gave up fapping and as a result, not as interested in that stuff anymore. But all the things I read and learned about are still with me and comes out from time to time to remind me Im a addict. Kinda sucks but thats life.
     
  10. Diesel74

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    Well, lets say the first trimester you develop as a male, then your mother starts drinking several glasses of soy milk per day for its "health benefits". This will heavily estrogenize the womans body and the fetus. With the fetus's levels so high, its more advanced characteristics are more feminine. So you have a girly baby with a penis. This happens all the time. More so nowadays with products like soy.
     
  11. Diesel74

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    In the first trimeter women tend to eat pretty normal. But in the second, their intake shoots up from like 1800 calories per day to like 4000. Where do the calories come from? Often ice cream. Here is link with the estrogenizing effects of dairy.

    http://www.metaboliceffect.com/hormones-in-milk/
     
  12. mv8652

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    I'm addressing the original poster's question. It's unfortunate that this thread has degenerated into a debate over what makes gays gay and whether soy can make you a woman. :(

    You know that you're straight, and so do we. All of this business about penises is the porn talking. Any of us who have watched much porn (and I don't even consider myself as having been very addicted) know that one's tastes in porn escalate to more and more bizarre stuff. After all, porn is about sex, and sex is the most interesting topic in all of creation, regardless of orientation. You start out looking at couples doing straight sex, and for every vagina there's a penis. Guess which one every straight guy identifies with? Then, they show you the penis getting its jollies outside the woman, which is the only way it can be seen. Watch enough of that while you're getting your own jollies, and the next thing you know, you're having unexpected gay-ish thoughts; and pretty soon you're on the way to sites featuring gay material. There's a whole genre of gay sites that are designed to attract straight viewers without turning them off. Those of us who have been down that road (and remember that I don't even consider myself as having been very addicted) can tell you that many of the pop-up ads on those sites feature females! Why? It's because the porn industry well knows that many of the viewers there are straight!

    You don't need therapy, psychiatric drugs, or a change of diet. What you need is to quit worrying yourself silly over this and to stay strong in your heroic reboot off porn. As you distance yourself from the influence of porn, these thoughts will weaken and subside. They were never anything more than the porn talking.
     
  13. Jreeze2015

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    Honestly thanks man. This question was getting way off topic as all I was looking for was some advice. Your advice makes me more at ease as I know it's all porn. I am only 22 days into my reboot and I feel a bit more calmer especially these last 3 days. I always had an idea that porn was what caused it but I couldn't stop looking at it. I would use it as a means to reassure myself I was straight by looking at pics of naked woman and watchin straight porn. Little did I know it was doing exactly the opposite of what I wanted it to do. It was making things worse. I am all in on this reboot. Porn has caused me so much anxiety stress depression and even caused me to lose my first love. I will never look back. Thank you
     
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  14. Diesel74

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    Sorry, we got side tracked. Glad the other guys were able to help!
     
  15. conquere

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    a spirit has gotten in to you, i hope it will go away if you stop feeding it sex like porn and maturbatin
    you open gateways if you look at porn to long in youre life, it also depende on other spiritual thing depending of youre parents spirituality and stuf, complicated

    otherwise pray defenitely work, try fasting, you have al different kinds from the bible like
    no food only drinks, 3days no food and drinks.
    alone sober food.... fast with the aim of getting released of this
    Bless you
     

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