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Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by rocker G, Aug 21, 2017.

  1. rocker G

    rocker G New Fapstronaut

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    hello,

    new here and looking for pointers. my bf and i are both taking a break from porn and masturbation. we aren't really sure what to do. i have been using porn for 13+ years. he uses porn as well. i definitely have a deathgrip and cannot orgasm inside men or women. i use mostly heteroporn and it is easier for me to orgasm this way. my bf is understanding and we want to start getting off without porn or self masturbation.

    we dont know how long to wait, if we can have sex (no self stimulation of genitals), if we can use toys (no vibrators, just those fleshlight things) or if we should continue to wait. we have been together over 4 years and have not gotten off inside each other to date. we want to become closer and decided to give this a shot. we are going on day 4 and now we want to try being a bit more intimate.

    it is ok if we dont orgasm. itll be more difficult for me (mentally and physically) cause i want to orgasm and am a bit impulsive. he is better than i am at maintaining our goals and saying its ok if we dont today. i guess we just want to know if it is too soon. any advice or pointers is appreciated. Also, if this is in the wrong area please let me know.

    rg
     
  2. HappyDaysAreHereAgain

    HappyDaysAreHereAgain Fapstronaut

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    The general consensus is to go for at least 30 days wthout O. Hugging, cuddling, and kissing intimacies are good for cultivating a relationship and can be a great help in a reboot as they open our eyes and emotions to better options to PMO. I wish you both luck as you work together to grow through your reboot.
     
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  3. Hopefulgirl

    Hopefulgirl Fapstronaut

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    I have read that having sex with a partner WHILE NOT FANTASIZING helps rewire the brain to prefer real sex. Perhaps you would both be interested in Karezza which is slow sex with no orgasm. Believe me-it sounds dull but is relationship changing. As for toys-I would say stay away from them for 90 days as they could be triggering to porn.
     
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  4. Atlanticus

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    NoFap is not just about what _not_ to do but what _to_ do instead as well. If I were you I would focus on building the emotional, romantic, intimate-without-going-sexual, closeness, etc. dimension of your relationship and interaction. Skip not just P but M and O as well... but develop the S-related soft, human, relationship-oriented dimension of things. In other words, I'd compensate for what you're leaving out (the longer the better until you days without PMO get into the triple digits) -- which should definitely include leaving out toys, sexually-specific sites, sexually explorative chat etc. -- by putting _in_ more of the inner and non-sexual physical stuff. That you can do all you want, guilt-free -- relying on his sense of discipline, to avoid "spilling" over into an erotic slippery slope. I'd not focus on the number of days "without", but work on the quality of the interaction instead.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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  5. rocker G

    rocker G New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for all of the above. we will discuss this tonight and move forward accordingly. i can see we were hoping for a quick fix. we will wait and allow for healing to occur. is there anything i can read to help out? during the day when he is at work and i am home alone i am tempted to indulge.

    These habits have been here every week for over 10 years. we just quit cold turkey. while i dont want to talk about relapsing just yet any advice you can give, here or in threads, or faqs that you can point to, are greatly appreciated. we will try for at least the 30 day mark and check in here for advice and support and learning.

    rg
     
  6. SOSo

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    I think you're both in a great place to support each other as there is no betrayal involved. You can both understand each other and your addiction. Be accountable for each other, egg each other on with inspiration in how you are helping yourselves. Go to SAA, therapy, couples therapy, etc;. Read as much as you can here.

    Is your friend group helpful?
     
  7. SOSo

    SOSo Fapstronaut

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    Check out the success stories section. A lot of the men there have guides.
     
  8. Atlanticus

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    If you're the one staying at home, all of this is harder for you and on you, too, I reckon. For you, I'd focus on building new, healthier habits that apply to you solo. Personally, I've found nature walks fantastic. Call 'm hikes if that sounds better, but exercising your body while soaking up the cosmic vibes in nature is a great way, I have found, to find your inner Chi...and build natural resistance to spiritually toxic thoughts and behavior. It may also help -- but I say this knowing nothing about your lifestyle -- to develop life style content that is not specifically tied to "gay culture," part of which could lead you astray.

    Best of success!
     

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