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Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by sethloon, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. sethloon

    sethloon Fapstronaut

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    fetish clips are not porn right
     
  2. Abetterbrain

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  3. xr2

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    I have a bit of a bugbear with the whole porn generalization. TBH, I don't even watch porn and never really have but I have a massive problem with fit and athletic women and spend a lot of time perusing profiles of athletes on Instagram and the like. Technically we could call it content, and content that you use to form arousal serves the same purpose. In the end, it doesn't really matter, as it all leads to overstimulation and avoidance of real relationships.
     
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  4. Abetterbrain

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    You're totally right. Porn is something that stimulates you. What's porn for one person is not for another. The fact is you're watch ok something that over stimulates you and causes sexual arousal. I have a fetish I think most guys do and when I fap I always fap to my fetish further training my brain away from normal sexual stimuli.
     
  5. sethloon

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    but what is 'normal' stimuli?
     
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  6. Abetterbrain

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    Sex with a real person.
     
  7. sethloon

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    and why is that so goddamn amazing
     
  8. Ridley

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    Are you asking why sex with a real person is "so goddamn amazing"? Well, I can think of four different reasons. I'm sure at least one of them will appeal to you:
    1. Biologically - If you're participating in heterosexual coitus (that is, penile-vaginal-intercourse), doing so increases the likelihood of passing your genes on to potential offspring. You aren't going to live forever, but there's a chance that your genetic information may continue to exist in the life of your children if you are able to find a mate. As a sexual animal, it is one of the ways to secure the survival of our species.
    2. Chemically - When you become sexually stimulated, your brain is exposed to larger quantities of dopamine, a chemical involved in the reward and pleasure systems of your brain. Whether you're male or female, experiencing an orgasm as a result of heterosexual coitus (penile-vaginal-intercourse) exposes your brain to another chemical called prolactin. Prolactin is a hormone that, to some degree, counteracts the effects of dopamine. It can make you feel satisfied, sleepy, and grounded in reality. Some neuroscientists have declared that prolactin is a way to measure sexual satiety (i.e. how satisfied you are, sexually). There have been several experiments conducted on the prevalence of prolactin in both male and female subjects after orgasms from porn with masturbation, masturbation without porn, homosexual intercourse, oral sex (both homosexual and heterosexual), and heterosexual intercourse. The results: Heterosexual intercourse between penis and vagina results in the highest levels of prolactin by a long shot in both men and women. In other words, having sex with a real person is more sexually satisfying than any other sort of sexual activity from a chemical perspective.
    3. Socially - Having sex with a real person is a great way to connect with that person. It is a fun, bonding activity you can do with someone you care about, and it will strengthen and deepen your relationship with that person. If you value personal relationships with other people, I can assure you that a relationship with a sexual partner is one of the most personal relationships you can have. I understand that this aspect of sex may not appeal to some people, especially for some people on the autism spectrum. However, I am assuming that you have empathy for other people, and that you would find enormous value in a deep, interpersonal relationship.
    4. Culturally / Spiritually - For many people, a sexual bond is a spiritual bond with another person. This will depend on where you are from, who you were raised by, and your family history. However, I think most cultures have somewhat of a collective understanding of sex and what it means in the life of a person. In the US (where I live), marriage (a sexual relationship) is considered by some people to be a spiritual union between two people, so being married is a way of preserving the customs and traditions of your people. I know this one may also not appeal to some people (it really doesn't appeal to me much, honestly), but culture and spirituality are really important to some people on this forum, so why not include it?
    I hope that answers your question. Sex with a real person is pretty "goddamn amazing". It's a fundamental part of what it means to be a human being.
     
  9. Abetterbrain

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    Sethloon. What is the answer you want. Previous poster did a pretty good job and you're not happy. You're coming at this already with a defensive stace for porn. If you want to jack off, go for it, fill your boots!

    Although I'm sure homosexual sex is just fine if you're homosexual.
     
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  10. Ridley

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    I am not a homophobe and I am not an aphobe. I have equal respect for people of all different sorts of sexuality. Most of the research on sex I've come across pertains to heterosexual intercourse simply because that's the most common kind of sexual activity people engage in. Nothing I said implies that homosexual intercourse is wrong morally, biologically, or socially. Nothing I said implies that being asexual is wrong morally, biologically, or socially. You asked why sex is so amazing and I answered for you from the perspective of a heterosexual. That doesn't mean that homosexuals or asexuals do not have a perspective on the matter. If you disagree with something I've said, then we can talk about it, but I'm not going to just let you call me names like that.

    Yes, sex is a fundamental part of what it means to be a human being because most human beings have sexual organs. However, that doesn't mean you're not a human if you aren't interested in sex or if you choose not to use your sexual organs for reproduction. Humans are incredibly diverse creatures, and I don't think that there is an easy way to define us without excluding some people from our definition. If I were trying to explain what a human being was to an alien creature who had never seen one, I would describe us as beings who normally reproduce sexually because most human beings engage in heterosexual intercourse at some point in their lives. That doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge homosexuals or asexuals as human beings. They are just as human as anyone else, but it's less common for a human to be homosexual or asexual than it is for a human to be heterosexual. I did not mean for my language to be exclusionary, and I don't know how I can possibly be more clear about that.

    That's not a very nice thing to call me. I have been respectful to you. I have not spoken to you in a condescending way and I have not called you any names. You asked a question, and I answered you to the best of my abilities. If you disagree with my answers, then I'm happy to discuss with you because I'm here to learn and to expand my perspective. However, if you're going to call me names, then I'm going to refuse to talk to you any more.

    Also, to respond to your question: aces are human beings, just like you and me. Asexual people are just as human as anyone else. They're just human beings who have no interest in or no ability to engage in any sort of sexual activity. There's nothing wrong with that morally, biologically, or socially. It's just uncommon. When I say that sex with a real person is amazing, I do not in any way mean to imply that an asexual person could not have an amazing life. Life is obviously more complicated than that.

    Watch your language, man. This is a site for people who are recovering from a porn addiction. It's a really sensitive subject, and those sorts of words can be very triggering for addicts. People are here for help, and this is supposed to be a safe place for them. Obviously, you're free to say whatever you want. I'm not going to step on your rights to free speech. However, I also have free speech, which means I have the right to tell you that your language is rude, insensitive, and serves no purpose other than to draw out an emotional response from other people.

    Having said that, I see your argument and I will still respond (for now, but fix your language, man). I argued that sex with a real person is an incredible experience, and you are now giving an example of sex with a real person that is not so incredible. Fair enough. Maybe we need to expand our definition from 'sex with a real person' to 'sex with a real person that you care about'. Having sex with a prostitute is deviant sexual behavior. It may satisfy items #1 and #2 that I gave in my original comment (biological and neuro-chemical satisfaction), but having sex with a prostitute doesn't benefit anyone socially or spiritually. Sex with a real person isn't always healthy, and some people are addicted to sex the same way one might become addicted to drugs. However, I think that if you are having sex with someone you care about and have empathy for, then it is amazing and can be a really positive experience. So, henceforth, let's assume that we're talking about consensual sex between two people who care about one another instead of just sex between two people.
     
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  11. Tiburon727

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    Sethloon totally not okay forum behavior. Please be more considerate. It goes against what we all want. With people’s advice take it or leave it but do not throw out disrespectful insults. It just does no good.
     
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  12. Ridley

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    You know, I thought you were probably trolling as soon as you called me a 'cuntbag', but I've seen other people on this forum who were just as rude and legitimately wanted help, so I thought maybe I'd give you a second chance. However, after this it's pretty obvious that you're trolling and I'm glad you got a rise out of what I've said. I hope it's been entertaining for you.
     
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