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Failing Classes

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Fallacious D, May 3, 2020.

  1. I'm probably going to fail 2 classes again (both of which I am retaking after failing them last semester). This is due to general laziness, on top of PMO, video game, and internet addiction. Interestingly, I was doing very well before NoFap. I am a math major. Yes, I still want to finish school and get a degree in Math (actuarial). This is the first time I have ever failed classes, and now it is going to be a streak of 2 semesters. I feel incredibly guilty, but I want to be honest with my parents, who are paying for my education. Neither of my parents finished college, my dad is self-employed and my mom went to trade school and now works in web design. I am incredibly privileged to be in the position I am.

    What mindset should I try to achieve? As stated, I feel very shameful about this, but I know that college is my preferred path to a career. Should I just accept my failure and move on? Is it possible that the energy I've put into rebooting has taken away my drive from other things like school? Can anyone relate to this?

    Help or advice is greatly appreciated, mostly because I have no friends or people that I am willing to talk to IRL about this.
     
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  2. Boy oh boy, There’s no putting energy into doing nofap, there’s only gaining energy. The fact that you think nofap is hard is making you exhausted and that’s why you’re lazy cuz you’re not moving on with your life. You need to decide now and forever are you going to fap or not, there is no streaks those are bullshit. This ain’t a race it’s a marathon, this ain’t a destination, its a journey.
     
  3. Thank you, this perspective helps me a lot. I am certainly not going to fap again, because it is within my control and I choose not to. You're right, I understand how serious this is.
     
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  4. frosties

    frosties Fapstronaut

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    You're asking about a mindset. Ownership for everything that's happened in your life. Sometimes things aren't your fault, but it's ALWAYS your responsability to make sure it never happens again. You are stronger than you think and you have things to get done. You don't want to study? You don't feel like it bc you'd rather play? Don't care, do it anyway, do it wholeheartadely, then and only then, when you know not only you did a good job but you did a GREAT job, you can relax.

    Also, you said "probably" fail, how so? When are your exams?
     
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  5. False promise

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    It helps to have a goal to work towards, beyond just graduating. Do you need a certain grade level in order to take further schooling or anything? I’ve been in your shoes many times, on the verge of failing, but I pulled through and did what I had to do to pass last second. So if you can salvage those classes and pass, find a way.
     
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  6. I think this question depends on the answers to a few other questions. Such as...

    Do you need this degree for the career you want?

    Do you think if you put in more effort, you would be able to pass the class, or is it the subject matter that is just too hard? If you tried to take the class again with more discipline, would you be able to succeed?

    What are you willing to do to make that happen? How much do you want this?

    I've always been a straight A student, but physics absolutely kicked my butt in high school. I hated it, wanted to quit but I couldn't. I talked to my science teacher, who I was already really close with, and honestly told him that I feel like this subject is just too hard for me and I'm having an extremely hard time understanding it.

    He encouraged me and said he would be willing to help me however much I needed to succeed, if I needed more one-on-one teaching. He also encouraged me that it is a tough class, but that I'm smart and he really didn't think it was a subject behind my ability to conquer if I put my mind to it.

    I ended up getting an A in the class, and some of my fondest high school memories are from the projects we did in that class. But it was definitely hard.

    You said you have generally been a good student, so that leads me to think you are capable of doing much better than you have been. It seems like your problem is discipline. Unfortunately that's one of those things you just have to make yourself do. Like making yourself drink more water or exercise or go grocery shopping, or any other number of tasks you don't necessarily want to do, but need to do.

    I think if you work on your discipline, you will surely not regret it. It's a very important aspect of life, and I know from experience of being rather bad at it, that it is definitely something you want to work on sooner rather than later.

    You can achieve this goal. You just have to be more disciplined to put your future ahead of your temporary pleasures, and manage your time wisely. It's simple, but not always easy. I think you can do it, though. I'd be happy to help if at all possible. I'm a huge nerd for organization and planning, so if you need someone to help with organizing your schedule or whatever things like that, let me know.

    I hope all goes well in talking to your parents. If you decide you want to continue school, I would advise to make yourself clear that you don't tale this lightly and that you will do better next time. College is really expensive, so I doubt they are going to be willing to pay for the same classes a 3rd time unless you make it clear that you're taking their investment seriously.
     
  7. I will also add that FORTUNATELY, lack of discipline is probably an easier problem to correct than lack of intelligence and understanding. If you are smart enough to understand what you are learning, but you are failing in discipline, that's totally possible to change. And it will benefit you in all aspects of life to work through that, even if you never ended up using your degree at all.
     
  8. @Castielle first of all I would like to thank you for responding to this problem of mine. I know we have our disagreements on other issues so it means a lot that you would take the time to help me with personal matters.

    I could probably salvage these classes (need a C or higher) but I haven't looked at my grades out of fear. And I could certainly pass the classes if I took them again. @False promise to answer your question I need these two classes as prerequisites for the rest of my major requirements. My schooling ends after a Bachelor's degree, and then I must pass a series of actuarial exams. @frosties The exams are in a couple weeks. For one of my classes, I have to literally study the entire course material. For the other, pretty much the same story.

    Exactly, my problem is discipline. This naturally played a role in my porn addiction as well. I grew up without a father and I never respected my mother for one second in my life. Not to make excuses or anything. And your suggestion rings true - I can "force/encourage" myself to do things which are positive. I have done this before, with exercise diet, etc. Hell, I even got myself addicted to NoFap and got a 93 day streak out of it.

    I have already had this talk with both my parents and I read from our interaction that they valued my honesty. I was shameful the first time and now my shame is twofold. I will be tempted to break down in tears and beg for forgiveness, but I'm not sure if that's my way of doing things. My mistakes have cost semester tuition (600-800, I forget) x2 plus the cost of 8 credits (a lot of money) x 2. Overall it will be maybe 3500-4000 dollars worth of sunk costs. That is a price I am willing to relinquish to my parents for their support. And in the long run, it is an insignificant sum. My expected life earnings are high enough not to look twice at that number if I get the career path I desire - not to boast.

    This is very generous of you. I will just ask - how do you personally plan for things that you know need to get done and will take many hours, such as studying for an exam, or even just day-to-day study?
     
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  9. You are right about the discipline part. It might not be easy, but certainly simple, much like running or working out. And I will fully admit that I have gotten "in the zone" with studying before and I am capable of willingly studying for long hours and enjoying it. It does feel good when it's done. The progress does manifest itself. And it does encourage me to study even more.
    You know, I am actually a giant hypocrite. I make fun of posts on this site asking: "how do I not jerk off?" And I will usually reply with something sarcastic, because we all know how to NOT masturbate - you just simply don't do it. It's not easy, but it's simple. Now here I am acting all confused that I don't know how to sit down and study, but there is no explanation required. You just do it. Thank you for reminding me.
     
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  10. I think that's a necessary first step. Look at your grades, and if there is still time, go to your professors and explain your desire to do better and turn things around. See what they say. Maybe they will have mercy and give you an opportunity for extra credit or something to pass it now instead of having to take it again.

    I think this is likely a common issue among us addicts. It makes sense, because addiction could be overcome with discipline.

    That could be really tough :/ I think as a parent it would be difficult to know if giving you another chance at these classes is the wise choice, or if it would seem like rewarding bad behavior. I would definitely try your hardest to see what you can do to pass these classes now, if at all possible.

    It's been a while since I've been in school, but I make a lot of to-do lists. I find it helpful to break things down into smaller pieces. List everything out that I need to do, then break those things into smaller tasks if possible, and plan them out ahead of time. Unfortunately this will be harder now that you've already procrastinated. But I would recommend listing out everything you need to do and deciding what days to do which things, so you don't get overwhelmed thinking you need to do them all right now.

    I also find it helpful to rank my to-do list items in order of importance, so if I'm feeling overwhelmed I know I can maybe skip the ones that are less important or less urgent.

    This is a pretty good method for deciding how to prioritize things:

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    It's called the Eisenhower Matrix.

    We all get like that sometimes. No worries :) maybe giving yourself a reward system would be good?

    When it comes to writing, I often procrastinate a lot. I find it helpful to make it a fun reward in some way, like going out to Starbucks to have a nice drink while I write, or make it a competition with my past stats, because I'm super competitive. Lol there are also some people on YouTube who do productivity livestreams, where they chat for a few minutes, then do a 20 minute writing/editing/whatever sprint, then break to chat, repeat. You could do sprints like that on your own as well. Maybe 20 minutes of studying, then a 5 minute break to watch a funny YouTube video or something, then another sprint, etc.

    Of course! Like I said, I have no ill will toward you, man. I wish you well!
     
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  11. Thanks. Yeah the lists and the prioritization would be a good idea, although realistically there are a lot of items in the "house on fire" category at this stage. I used to make to-do lists in my early NoFap days and it helped me a lot. I never should have dropped that. As far as rewards go, that could be a good idea, I will have to figure out what things I can reward myself with and choose carefully. Probably the pipes or working out or something. I used to let myself watch YouTube during my breaks but I am a YouTube addict and in my case that would be like rewarding an alcoholic with a beer. In fact it would probably be best if I dropped YouTube and video games completely while I try to salvage this semester, I've done enough damage with those things as is. I will try to reassure my mom to keep investing in my schooling, but I am running out of reasons. Currently the only thing I have to show for my dedication to my goals is my 5 day streak. I appreciate the advice.
     
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  12. George Killian

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    I also had this situation. But I was able to overcome myself morally and I got it.
     
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