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Don't Let Dogma Ruin Your LIfe

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by ChrisHaven, Oct 4, 2014.

  1. ChrisHaven

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    dogma
    [dawg-muh,dog-]

    noun,plural dogmas or dogmata

    an official system of principles or tenets concerning faith, morals, behavior, etc.,as of a church.
    Synonyms: doctrine, teachings, set of beliefs, philosophy.

    I grew up in a deeply religious Catholic household. Masturbation was sin. Premarital sex was sin. Hell was a reality etched in my mind. I used to have nightmares of spending an eternity in hell tortured by demons. No, really. Religion and dogma ruled everything I did.

    Dogma is a powerful thing. When you’re young, its drilled into your head together with numerous limiting beliefs concerning wealth, relationships, and certain groups of people among others.

    Dogma, may have started out with noble intentions, but the bottom line is that dogma is a form of control.

    One of the reasons why I was a virgin till the age of 21 had everything to do with my religious upbringing and my fear of damnation. If you want to taste every last sweet drop of juice from your life, you have to squeeze very hard. This means that you have to do whatever you want to do, do it fully and passionately,without caring what others think about you.

    Don’t get trapped in a previous generations way of life. You must adapt to the present generation. Most importantly, you must question very belief that was programmed into you as a child.

    If you really don’t feel an urge to get married, then don’t let the fear of losing your girlfriend, or the fear of being alone influence your decision. Don’t let your parents religious or cultural beliefs get in your way. Don’t. get. married.

    If you want to have sex with multiple attractive women, do it. You’re not a creep for approaching women, you’re not a player for having sex with multiple women, you’re not shallow for choosing to penetrate only the most physically attractive of women. You’re not less enlightened, or less spiritual by choosing to follow your biological desires and spread your seed inside as many women as possible. Quitting porn and having sex with women certainly does not make you a sex addict.

    When I was still addicted to porn, trying to improve my dating skills, I spent a lot of time with guys who were excited to learn these skills. They were frustrated and clueless like me, but eager to learn and propelled by their desire for sex. Many of them eventually got quite good at attracting women ,some got good at getting laid consistently and a handful learned how to build and maintain great relationships with women.

    Almost all of them succumbed to dogma. Usually, they started dating a woman, quit having other attractive women around them, and quickly fell victim to comfort, security and their fear of loss. Some got married, then divorced as they realized that the woman they were with was not the right one for the, some got lazy and as a result, their wives cheated on them, divorced them, and left them virtually financially destitute.

    A handful are happily married and claim to be happy, but the amount of pornography they consumed, coupled with their willingness to visit a strip club at the drop of a dime make me question their claim.

    Men, if you’re seriously trying to quit pornography or get over your limiting beliefs with women, religion will not do you any favors. It will certainly make you very guilty about your decision.

    Jesus probably will not help you quit porn. Only your firm decision and a scientifically proven method will.

    There are very few religious approaches to pornography addiction that work. Even those that exist with a “scientific” approach have a religious agenda. At best, they will repress your cravings. Your addiction needs to be handled head-on. It needs to be understood, acknowledged and dealt with piece by piece. It may take three months to deal with, or it may take 3 years.

    For some of you, it may become a lifelong struggle, you will overcome it, but you will have to maintain a certain lifestyle to keep it from taking over your life again. For those of you, Quit Porn In 30 Days is merely the first step in tackling your addiction.

    Time waits for no man. Before you know it, you will be an old man- you days of hunting for young nubile women long gone, and the only thing left is regret. If dogma is holding you back- cut those ropes and break free. Only fear holds you back.

    I have fears as well. I feared that I would never overcome my addiction. I was scared that my erectile dysfunction was permanent. I sometimes fear growing old alone because I refuse to drink society’s kool aid. I feel fear, but I use it to motivate me to push harder. When I feel fear, I use it as a sign that its time to grow-time to tackle that fear.

    In the twilight of you life, be sure your life was lived fully, fearlessly, without regrets. Look back at your life and smile, because your time on earth was spent as a free man- free from the bondage of society and dogma.


    I leave you with one of my favorite quotes which I read every morning without fail.

    The only life worth living is the adventurous life. Of such a life, the dominant characteristic is that it is unafraid. It is unafraid of what other people think…It does not adapt either its pace or its objectives to that of its neighbors . It thinks its own thoughts, reads its own books, it develops its own hopes and is governed by its own conscience. The herd may graze where it pleases or stampede where it pleases, but he who lives the adventurous life will remain unafraid when he finds himself alone.

    -Raymond B Fosdick

    Be Happy, Be Free of Dogma, Be Free of Regret.
     
  2. The Equalizer

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    "Jesus probably will not help you quit porn. Only your firm decision and a scientifically proven method will."

    First off, I'm not religious. I don't believe in God. But I do respect that I have neighbors here that are Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Satanist, Pagan, Scientologist, and I'm sure even more beliefs/views/faiths whatever you want to describe it as, even anti-dogmatic folk as yourself.

    You have strong anti-dogmatic feelings obviously.

    For some people Jesus will very much help them if they ask and pray for it. Who are you to talk against another person's beliefs?

    I understand your post was very personal and relevant to YOU. I respect that very much. I wish you the best ChrisHaven.

    Ever read this book?

    Breaking Addiction: A 7-Step Handbook for Ending Any Addiction

    It helped me overcome a few addictions.
     
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  3. beauty

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    Very interesting. I was also raised in a religious Catholic household. What I have come to realize through my time on NoFap is that it is near impossible for Jesus or God to intervene in a pornography addiction. Religion is not on the same playing field as technology. I think the beneficial aspect of religion is the idea that there is a greater being, who provides support.

    Can Jesus or God stop someone from PMO'ing? Not a chance in hell. Technology will 10 times out of 10. The will must be mustered from within. The change must come from within. The strength must come from within. Religion assembles this fortitude for some people, including myself.
     
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  4. Misfit

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    As a non-christian who grew up in a (non-practising) Anglican household, I actually (sort of) disagree.

    I don't believe in dogma, rules or damnation, but I still believe in a sort of "higher power" or whatever you want to call it - and I do believe that, if we strip away the books and written dogma, then all religions have a similar set of core values - and that these values didn't just appear on the earth to control us, they formed out of man's wonder at the world and trying to make sense of it over millions of years.

    Therefore, I believe that every human being on this planet is primarily spiritual, and that we all have the ability to have a connection to something "divine"... I think that by surrendering to this " divine energy" we can accomplish absolute miracles.

    That doesn't mean it gets done for us, or that we won't break our surrender, but it does mean we can use this connection to find that extra strength when we really want it (rather than need it).

    So no (in my opinion) we won't go to hell for making mistakes, just like the universe won't punish us for bad karma. Be it physical or emotional, we make our own hell, and it's up to us to free ourselves from it.

    Of course, this is just my opinion, which is subject to change, and is not intended to insult anyone who thinks differently to me.
     
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  5. e5s

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    That's good advice.

    Here's my take on your story. Your attitude is very common among teenagers. I can't fault you for growing at your own pace. I will say, however, that you're missing out on a few of life's best adventures, opportunities that you won't detect until you're ready for them.

    It sounds like you associate mainly with men who are not any better off than you are. That's unfortunate. Before you know it, you will all be old men. Some of you will continue to enjoy a sense of purpose, pride in ongoing projects, sources of fulfillment, fun, intimacy, and even sex (yes, sex) in your old age. Some will experience only decline, self-comforting with memories of earlier days, wondering when it will be time to put your own lights out. Here's hoping you're in the former category.

    Wishing you all the best, the courage to grow and explore in every way, the eyes to see more than you have already known in life.
     
  6. Ekhangel

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    Oh Lord, a 21-year old virgin. This is absolutely horrible. I don't know how you handled it, I myself would have probably committed suicide knowing that the gangsta buddies from my high school are already scoring and I'm not.

    As to the topic of dogmas and the limitations of religion - I too never believed in heaven, hell, God's will/plan or any of that sort, but always instinctively knew I want to maintain "chastity" and to sacrifice my sexuality to one woman. Why? Because my strongest ambition it to preserve myself through a stable family. I perceive reality beyond my individual physical existence, I accept no bullshit of the "you live only once" or "carpe diem" sort. Timeless perception is my key to deep satisfaction of which shagging even the sexiest women on Earth would never provide.

    So, let me counter-quote Fosdick's banalities with my own quote:

    "It is a tendency of mediocre people to live with birth and death in perspective. Great individuals last in eternity."

    Adrian Komiński
     
  7. The Equalizer

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    Living is Beautiful

    Just gonna dump a tribute song here, a tribute to infinitude. Infinite beliefs, infinite ways of seeing things. Respect to all.

    [video=youtube;Dbz15OsJlVU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbz15OsJlVU[/video]
     
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  8. beauty

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    When you find the right woman, she will be, if anything, pleased to hear a man is a virgin. If she immediately judges him, she doesn't deserve to have him. Real woman respect one's virginity.

    There is a sort of stigma in today's world that virgins are "weird" and "awkward". If anything, they are extremely lucky to still be holding onto something so special. Everyone is different, and just because someone hasn't had sexual intercourse does not make them any less than guys who have sex all the time, even for a 21 year old. For myself personally, I don't enjoy having casual sex. It's like taking a part of that person with you, even though you may think there are "no strings attached".
     
  9. wotawanka

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    Love every word you said and can't think of anything to add to make it better.
     
  10. Ekhangel

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    Beauty, I thought the sarcasm was obvious enough.
     
  11. beauty

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    Couldn't tell, whoops! :cool:
     

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