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Does having the "connetction" with a real woman count as a relapse?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Transbaikalian Guran, Jan 28, 2024.

Does having the "connection" with a real woman count as a relapse?

  1. Go for it!

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  2. Nah, that is a relapse

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  1. Transbaikalian Guran

    Transbaikalian Guran Fapstronaut

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    Sup gurus!

    I am in a situation when I can have it, BUT... I am not sure if my D would work... Even if I am able to do that, I don't think I can perform well. The last two contacts were ain't good, I couldn't fully operate but with "the oral assistance", however I reached O.

    The thing is, it works well with P, especially with some of the genres. Sometimes I have morning wood, which is a good sign. However, I neither feel anything looking at real girls for most of the time, nor for pictures/images/ad/lingerie posters, etc. No effect...

    Anyway, should I go for it when I have a chance? Just to build some self-confidence
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    Should I live without "jerking with the woman's body", at least for 90 days?
     
  2. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    You have to decide what constitutes "healthy sexuality" for you and what doesn't.

    If your perception of sex is "jerking with the woman's body", or "doing it to build self-confidence," then I would say that definitely seems unhealthy. No woman should be made to feel like a human sex toy, or a tool to build a man's ego.

    But if you're enjoying a real connection with a real woman and you both want to experience sexual intimacy, well ... that's infinitely better.

    It 'works' with P because P is a "super-normal stimulus." It ramps up the brain far more than the average real-life experience. There's a good chance that your use of P is what's making your D not work as well with real women. I bet if you abstain from P for a decent amount of time, you'll find yourself getting excited again over non-porn pictures/ad/lingerie/etc. The brain does re-sensitize.
     
  3. Transbaikalian Guran

    Transbaikalian Guran Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for your reply! Well, it seems that I didn't explain myself correctly. I mean at that stage where I am rn, I don't feel much from being together with women, I do seek for emotional connection first. The option I've got is with the girl I do have certain feelings for, but more like friends, so does she. I don't plan use her as the tool, but I don't feel a strong desire, more like an impulse, which is certainly is not good enough to keep my D solid for long without other unorthodox actions...

    Actually, the root of the problem is that after I broke up with a girl 5 years ago, I dedicated myself to P instead going out with other girls. As it clearly seems to me now, you can substitute a real woman with a hand and P.

    "I bet if you abstain from P for a decent amount of time, you'll find yourself getting excited again over non-porn pictures/ad/lingerie/etc. The brain does re-sensitize." That was the best part, thnx for giving me motivation!

    I hope u r having a great day!
     
  4. MikeSilva

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    A huge part of the rebooting process is the rewiring part with real partners, so yes I would try to have real sex with a real partner. It trains your brain to connect erections with real partners and not with pixels on a screen. Even when you don't get a decent erection it still trains your brain.
     
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  5. Transbaikalian Guran

    Transbaikalian Guran Fapstronaut

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    I've actually seen a video on YouTube with the guy who was recommending to do that, like trying until it works well for you. If u failed, tell her that u was feeling nervous or tell her the truth. Perfectly, I would prefer to do that with a girl I have feeling for, but I do understand that this issue might changed her mind on me.

    Regarding the connection with the real partners, I do agree and have my own opinion to support that. Before I had a gf, I was quite active with girls, had a lot of memories with them, even remembered the sensations that could arouse me easily. After the last brake up, I didn't have a girl for 5 yeas, so I replaced all the moments with porn images.

    Anyway, thnx for your reply! Wish u a great day!
     
  6. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    If you're not totally into her sexually, I would encourage you not to sleep with her. If she's "more like a friend," then you risk really complicating and confusing your friendship if it becomes sexual. Why not just wait until you're with someone who you're truly sexually attracted to?

    Because the way things are now, if you did have sex with her and your D doesn't work, you won't know if it's because of porn or if it's because you're just not that into her.

    Sure thing man! Right now, you're not being aroused by 'softcore' material because you're conditioned to the impact of hardcore porn. But when you abstain from that for a while, those things will start getting your attention. And that's important to understand, because when you've got some sobriety under your belt, it's tempting to let your guard down. You don't worry about big booty models in swimsuits because after all, that's not porn. But next thing you know, it's sending you down the spiral.
     
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  7. Transbaikalian Guran

    Transbaikalian Guran Fapstronaut

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    Well, that's a great statement: "Because the way things are now, if you did have sex with her and your D doesn't work, you won't know if it's because of porn or if it's because you're just not that into her."

    It seems that it is better for me to keep a distance for a while, unless until I won't be sure for my feelings, as well as would she.

    As for the digital and physical "objects" that should distract, but don't because of the weakened impulses. I do believe that I don't have to worry about that for a now, until "the drive" return.

    Thnx for the wisdom! Have a great day!
     

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