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Do you really want to quit?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Accountable and Fighting, May 17, 2023.

  1. This is more of an open discussion of a thought. I'm not accusing you and I'm not accusing myself either. However, I'm curious about how we know that we really want to quit PMO.
    Is it based on our streaks? Is it based on how many podcasts we listen to? Some people do these things, but don't put in actual effort.

    I suggest that it's a combination of seeking, reaching out, and gradual success. What do you guys think?
     
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  2. NewJohnQ

    NewJohnQ Fapstronaut

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    I think it had a lot to do with how far down we’ve fallen.
    I binged on hookups for the last 18 months and did things I never thought I would do.
    I either needed to fully give myself over to that life or do a complete 180 and get clean. I don’t want to completely fuck up my life.
    In my case, giving up PMO and hookups means I might never O again. I’m married but we have not had sex for 5 years. We might not ever.
    I’m at the point where I’m ok with that.
     
  3. I'm not trying to be judgmental here, but do you think it's impossible for you and you're wife to have sex again?
     
  4. NewJohnQ

    NewJohnQ Fapstronaut

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    Not impossible. Highly unlikely but not impossible.
    If we do end up having sex again I would like to do Karezza where I don’t orgasm.
     
  5. KevinesKay

    KevinesKay Fapstronaut

    For decades, I really tried to stop. Going to meetings, being on forums, counseling, filters, reading books. Looking back, I honestly didn't know how to stop. It's really frustrating. Too much bad advice was given too me over the decades. It took a move of God to set me on a path that I believe works for me. Too much wrong thinking on this forum as of today. Makes it hard for everyone here to know how to stop. I don't associate the lack of success all to lack of trying.
     
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  6. NewJohnQ

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    It does take a move of God. He has a way out for each of us, but we have to be open to it. For a long time, I was not willing to look at His way out for me. I’ve wasted a lot of time trying to do it myself.
     
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  7. Well put, we defidently live in an age of information overload as well. There are so many contrary opinions on the best way to stop. What has helped you the most?
     
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  8. KevinesKay

    KevinesKay Fapstronaut

    What's helped me significantly is understanding that it's not about what I'm doing, but what's going on in my brain. Most of my journey has been characterized with trying to stop the behaviors. Yet not paying a whole lot of attention on my lust and fantasy. And so I'm guilty of heating up my brain with thoughts and looks of lust, and then wondering why I was craving to act out so bad. If only I had taken lust and fantasy more seriously. One look or thought always leads to another and another. It's just easier for me to say, "No," to the first one. Then there won't be a second, or a third, or a fifth, or an eighth. And if I condition my eyes and mind not to look at or think on such things that my addict would jump out with, then the look or thought won't turn into lust.
    And if I don't lust, I won't crave.
    And if I don't crave, I won't cave.
    Game over. I win.

    With the help of God, keeping my brain's toxicity level at around 3 or 4, makes it much easier to deal with saying, "No," to porn. Whereas, before, my brain's toxicity level constantly roamed around 7-8. That's a huge difference. I've found it to be a much easier path.
     
  9. I do but whenever I get an urge it’s like…..

    My mind is telling me nooooo!

    BUT MY BODYYYYYY!

    MY BODY’S TELLING ME YEEEEEEEES!
     
  10. I have struggled with this addiction for far too long now, Longer than I anticipated, so yes I truly want to quit!
     
  11. I really like this response! One thing that helped me that tie in with this a bit is understanding the activation sequence for addictions and it's stages. It helps to stop when you know where you are within your episode.
     
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  12. Yeah, I think there is defidently a distinction
     
  13. I agree, it's a real poison that leaves nothing but pain in it's tracks
     

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