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Do you ever wonder why?(For people with fantasizing problems) (May have triggers)

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by sfmark12, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Live life

    Live life Fapstronaut

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    I don't know why you have them. But I can share a sure way to reduce them. Just get busy and busier. Get involved in something very seriously. It's hard for fist few tries but gets easy as you do it.

    Try it .

    Regards
     
  2. I kind of want to bring this thread back for a bit, I was actually going to make another thread relating to this topic but I decided since I already made one, why not continue the conversation.
    Let's start with the good news first. First of all there is absolutely no desire for porn anymore. At all. Nothing, even just talking about it upsets my stomach. Shit even typing the word porn makes me gag. So thats good. Next the sexual fantasies have been so rare I feel great, I have the natural sexual attraction when I see a gorgeous woman(Aka I can look at her body and not fill myself with sex position and just admire). Now the bad news is I currently face a bad situation called sexsomnia. Apparently it is uncommon and affects 7.6% of the population.
    At first it was like I end up waking up masturbating to stopping it before ejaculation and now its getting worse to the point where I wake at ejaculation. I don't know why its happening and I am trying to stop it before it gets worse. It is hindering my progress to end masturbation once and for all and its trying to bring back the fantasies. I was just wondering if anyone has this condition and what they are doing to stop it, any insights please comment. Thank you and have a great day!
     
  3. ultrafabber

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    I can relate to this problem with fantasizing and the problem is that essentially sex fantasizing IS porn, just mental porn. Or rather, porn and pics/erotica help fuel our fantasies. So the root issue is sex fantasizing and imagining we are with a person when in reality we are not. And i consider this stems from out incapacity to accept we are lonely or alone.

    So out mind creates these fantasies to soothe ourselves... which is not good.

    I think sexsomnia issue is related to that and your subconscious playing the same scenario. The good news is that you did get some control in real life and control in sleep will follow. When i was on good streaks and very determined I would literally stop a sex dream while it was happening and even if i ejaculated in the dream i did not ejaculate in real life
     
  4. Tankus

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    I really hope this is the case hey, and I think it is. And replying to the OP, I've found the longer I go nofap, the less those thoughts bombard me. It's been interesting, now when I look at women if they're especially beautiful I find it quite hard to look away. Of course I want to have sex with them but in a more humane way, first I want to get to know them and take it through all the right stages. But it's like this thought in a blink of an eye, very hard to explain. Maybe I'm just sugarcoating my lust for them idk. reminds me of how I used to feel when I was 12 years old or something though. Does anyone relate to this?

    All these changes have been interesting though. I feel like nowadays I don't get that instant dopamine hit when I unintentionally see a photo of a half naked chick scrolling thru instagram or whatever, feels like I look at it and appreciate it for a second and no longer have that instant thought of wanting to cum.
     
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  5. ChicagoGenXGuy

    ChicagoGenXGuy Fapstronaut

    I feel like and hope I'm on the road to where you are now, Tankus. If images were forced on me right now I think I'd be hard pressed to get turned on. It'd most likely be meh... even if the pics were the things most likely to turn me on. I see that as a big positive after 43 days no PM. But the thoughts, whoa, different story.

    Most of us know what a tough relentless enemy the PMO wired brain can be. Mine sure is. It's interesting that after most or all the brain's chess piece tantalizing thoughts are knocked off the board, there is the queen, tough as nails. It's one big piece that will take time and probably therapy eventually to knock off the board.

    The queen is my ex-wife and the thoughts are about her sexual escapades which I encouraged and eagerly fed off for nearly 3 years before she went into alcoholism recovery and filed for divorce. A year after the divorce and going on 3 years since she moved out, here I am with these sledgehammer sexual thoughts. They aren't just pornographic, they are pornography.

    One of the unplanned benefits of PMO withdrawal is to see clearly what's at the core of my dysfunction. Not sure, but I think all other fetishes that I accumulated over the years (as sick and depraved as it gets without crossing into illegal) were a cheap substitute for my real obsession, my ex-wife with an endless supply of other men. I'm pretty sure I know what that's about and will deal with it in time. For now basic mental and physical recovery is job one.
     
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  6. To add on: I honestly feel like I am permanently fucked. Today I was reading my book(A mind for numbers) and my god I just cannot focus. My mind drifts away fantasizing about girls and sex. I just don't understand, I want a clean mind. My addiction started to fantasizing for a long time then I discovered porn. To top it off I had another sexsomnia episode, after a couple days of not having it, it came back. Sometimes I just lose hope in this reboot process.
    Edit: it actually pisses me off, I nearly three my book in anger across the floor and wanted to scream "WHY!!??"
     
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  7. I can agree with you to an extent. Most of the time when I would love to sit down and focus on something. It's like life knows when to fuck me when I want to improve. Other than that I'm fine.
     
  8. DarkClaw89

    DarkClaw89 Fapstronaut

    I've still got a long ways to go, but I wonder if meditation and mindfulness exercises would help. It could help by getting you to focus on the moment you are living instead of speculation. I've started meditating every morning (even if it's just a couple of minutes!) and I've been finding it a lot easier to focus during the day. I still over-sexualize women, but I also found it to be less intense and often. I highly recommend trying it at least.


    EDIT: I found another user shared this video (user "im_broken"). I don't agree with this guy's stance on what "thinking" is, but I think his discussion on not always thinking is useful:
     
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  9. VoicesFromTheOtherSide

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    If you practice it enough you will be able to simply watch the antics of the mind in a humorous way. Like the actions of a child without the need to follow through on the thoughts.
     
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  10. I understand being naturally attracted, but constantly thinking about it is a bad sign.
     
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  11. I just tried for two weeks to not masturbate and not indulge in my fantasies. It failed. The more I abstain from masturbation, the less I can concentrate, the more fantasies fill my mind. Masturbation feels like a relief.

    I just enjoy these fantasies too much. I think it is easier for people to let go if they have some sort of shame or guilt attached to their fantasies. I don't. My fantasies are not inhumane, I don't see anything terrible about them.

    However, it can be annoying to constantly be distracted by fantasies. I often have trouble concentrating on the tasks at hand because I am tempted by fantasies.

    I have done that all my life. Most fantasies are not even of sexual nature. I just like to imagine stories, game rules, etc. I think it is a life long habit and it is just incredibly hard to simply chuck it out of my life. I am sure some of you will have similar issues.
     
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  12. DarkClaw89

    DarkClaw89 Fapstronaut

    Exactly, that is precisely my point. I have started to see improvement from meditation.
     
  13. I can't imagine myself to masturbate, I remember the shame with it every time so I stopped doing it. I have been having episodes of sexsomnia but the difference is I am not aware of me doing it, it is kind of hard to explain.
     

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