I agree with you and I dont want to encourage people on this forum to masturbate despite their will to have a break or stop it for ever. I just want to say my opinion and remove fear hovering over masturbation. I also like to bring in this issue a new point of view.
I am not trying to take any credit here and certainly nor for a psychologists work "healthy masturbation" even though I think something such as healthy masturbation can not be invented. Our whole history till the internet was founded human kind masturbate healthy and what happend now is that we have just realised it if you see the point. Anyway thanks for your contribution to fruitfull discussion. I did not expect that there will be so many of you to respond to my post and I am thankful for all your oppinions. Together we are stronger .
I am really not Concerned with your Opinion @tibron. If you want to M, Go ahead. Secondly, Anal sex is not sex. Finally, I have gone 203 days without M as well as P. I suffered from this curse called brain fog due to Masturbation. My brain fog is non-existing. Here in this Forum, You can do as you want but the effects of over M are Severe. I can assure you that.
You are not concerned and yet you are repling which means that my thoughts triggers something in your mind which does not agree with me and feel threatened. It is called ego my dear friend and because my opinion does not fill into you mental image about yourself = your conceptualized identity and therefore you write here 5 comments until now ;-). Do you think it makes you a better person when you have not masturbated for 203 days? Do you think that with every other day you will become better as if it was some game. I can tell you what is on the end of your yourney . It is death probably in 75 years as this is average age of life. And what you do from your birth to your death is your story. You decided to wrote a story about a men who do not masturbate from now until his death and thats all. In the end it will shrinks to dash between the date of your birth and date of your death on your tombstone. And think about it, what would be this whole forum about if not about sharing opinions and helping each other? Sorry, you are playing with the words and therefore so am I.
such a controversial topic. I would still put in my view. Everybody has different goals Some like me spend their time fapping and doing nothing others watch for a long period of time and then finally shag it It depends on what finally is the cause of your loss of time Personally being a routine fapper I feel my body is better when I have a streak. Otherwise nothing except a bit more control over my thoughts and thereby my emotions. I wont have a history with porn so I will not comment on it's effects. I personally always found It disgusting to look at a nude girl.
Wait. Did you just say death. I have recently read a Success story of a Fapstronaunt who has gone Seven years without M and P. So why is He still alive? What about those people who have reached 18 and above years without M and are still virgins. Why are they Still alive? Sorry you are playing with the words and therefore so am I. See, am not a Coward so don't think you can threaten me.
Well, @tibron Told me [QUOTE=" Do you think it makes you a better person for not maturbating for 203 days[/QUOTE]
I am sorry I inaccurately expressed myself. I meant that on the end of your yourney it is death, probably in 75 years as this is average age of life :-D. This is ultimately true and you can´t say anything on that. So to answer you question those people are still alive because they are young or never had a serious accident which would cause their death. The next thing is my friend that I really do not want to threatens you. Only your ego feel threatent because of the reasons which I have described above.
He said you will die eventually. He didn't say you will die from not masturbating. Why so defensive bro, and argumentative? You're coming off as extremely arrogant.
So @tibron , how does one masturbate responsibly? Can it be done? When I was finally able to quit porn, I also quit masturbation, as I believe it always lead be back to relapsing to PMO. I have now abstained from masturbation for... a while now, and can honestly see no reason to go back to it, apart from to relieve excessive sexual frustration. However, I feel that I have become dependent on not masturbating due to a fear of relapsing, but also because I have set out in my goals that I don't want to fap. I hope to start having sex at some point in the not too distant future. Honestly, I just don't see the point of fucking your own hand now.
Maybe this is not a case in which 1 option is right, and the other wrong. Maybe there are 2 paths, both of which may be fine. @NoBrainer It's good that you don't feel the need to masturbate, but if you do have sexual frustration then occasional masturbation may be fine. The addiction is the problem, not the act. There is a difference between eating from McDonald's once in a while and eating daily. Also, a sexual partner may not be in our lives just because we desire one. There are problems in getting in a relationship, everyone has some issues. For some, it may take a while. So it may be ok to masturbate.
Oh my god :-D !!! you have said it exactly. And thanks for the JohnathanSmith post too. Guys you understand is the same way as I and I really want to thank you for your posts . Thats exactly it! Because of our accumulated sexual energy we sometimes need to fuck what ever it is ... hand, feet, mouth, vagina, anus or even hole in a tree :-D. The other things are like with the McDonald as JohnathanSmith have said . Yours opinions really makes me happy and thanks again for that.
Not masturbating for 14months is incredible @NoBrainer - well done! Now, what you said may be true Jonathan i.e. if you do have sexual frustration then occasional masturbation may be fine. However, I think you overlooked his reason: I can understand @NoBrainer's reason and so I applaud him for doing what is right for him and staying true to himself.
Erm, I do not think we are on the same page here. We do not need to "fuck" anything just because we are horny and have accumulated sexual energy. To be honest, I am not sure that masturbation is something that can be done responsibly by fapstronauts, because of our history of sexual based addiction. We have already proven to ourselves that we are not capable of maturely dealing with our sexual energy. What has changed? Even if a person is clean, is there anything stopping them from sinking back into an addictive state again? Surely isn't it easier to just abstain and be done with it? For me personally, I would want the turning point of my reboot to be becoming sexually active with a partner. For me it makes very little sense to go back to the very thing that I've put so much effort into stopping. That is not a turning point I want, and spells danger in my mind as I am unsure of whether I would be able to go back to masturbation in a responsible manner. I do think you have to be careful with what you're advising for people on this site tibron. Most are still addicted, or not yet rebooted, and are therefore vulnerable to a lapse. That is, they are still at the point where their addiction controls them and not the other way round. It has been proven again and again here, that (generally speaking), complete sexual abstinence is the best and fastest way to see significant improvements. It is therefore counterintuitive to say to newbies to keep masturbating, because it's 'healthy'. Well for many of us, it's not healthy, mostly in a psychological manner of speaking.
I will reiterate that perhaps there is not 1 right answer to this. However @NoBrainer I do appreciate your point that on this forum, people are addicts. That makes a difference. Perhaps for some people there can be no healthy masturbation. However, I do feel, cause of what I've read on this site, that there is an extreme anti masturbation stance by many people. I think masturbation is not that big a problem in general. My situation with porn has been quite different and my way of quitting has been different. I have seen porn very less in my life. I stopped years ago when I felt that I could get hooked (had not been a long time habit ). I don't think this site exister when I quit. When I stopped, I tried to masturbate without it. I succeeded in leaving it. Masturbated with fantasy or no fantasy. The point is, there are no one size fits all solution, especially not for this issue.
