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Death grip (At least that is what i think it is)

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by ProavtiveJoy, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. ProavtiveJoy

    ProavtiveJoy Fapstronaut

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    Hi,

    Except that I been having ED problems before (trouble keeping it up during sex). I been having problems with the sensitivity in my penis (from a day-to-day basis).

    I did bought a fleshlight. Because curiosity and though that it might get me more into the sensesion of sex being in "single mode".

    But i got kind of addicted to it. And thereby feelt like a waste of time so i got rid of it.

    But now when it happens that i mastrubate without it. Or just in general. I feel the pain of my deth grip so much stronger (or when i had the toy and matrubated).

    So is this normal? Is it something that will go away with time when i stop being a frequent "masturbator"? Is there anything that has been proved to work that is not a sex toy to alleviate this (tables that increase blood pressure in the genital area, for example)?
     
  2. ProavtiveJoy

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    I think more short the dilemma is now i am more addicted to the stimulation of an fleshlight then using the "deth grip"
     
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  3. mnunez9

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    I felt the same way too for a while. Even watching the craziest porn videos or using the most creative toys, I got bored with sex and masturbation. I think you should try to reboot for a while, like 9 months. I think that going PMO free for that time really jump starts your sensitivity and helps you heal from PIEDS. I am in the process of rebooting and I definitely feel myself coming back to life so I would definitely recommend it. Its not easy but it will probably let you enjoy your sexuality much more when the time comes.

    Also, if deathgrip is not helping, trying loosening your grip! No human body is going to have the tightness that your clenched hand will provide so masturbating that way kind of sets you up for disappointment with the real thing. If you loosen your grip, that will probably be representative of a more realistic sexual encounter. But I think the best thing you can do is give up masturbating for a while.

    Try to go hardmode. You won't be sorry. It wont be easy but it will be worth it.
     
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  4. ProavtiveJoy

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    Yeah
    Yeah i think you are right about that. It is like just loosening it wont compare to the kind of sensation that flashlight gave. But it is better than nothing though.

    Yeah i have tried many times. But either it is that i have friends that witch porn masturbate and i want to feel part of that group mentallity (guess that is a similar thing for those who smoke) Or that i build up so much repressed energy towards it that i just binged after my relapse getting my self demotivated to try again. Or just have so much energy directed towards that that i feel discomfort if i do not. But yeah doing it sometimes never seems to work though. A once an addict always an addict kind of think, i guess.

    Why 9 month though. Is not 90 days the most common recommendation?
     
  5. ProavtiveJoy

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    I have also tripped up a bit on the judgment side of things. Does not feel good when you feel shame about it. Or like what you are doing is wrong.

    But at the same time you feel really bad after you done the deed in yourself. Like do not want to look yourself in the mirror kind of thing :p
     
  6. ProavtiveJoy

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    Psychologist say that not wanting to look yourself in the mirror is a sign of you feeling like you did something that you do not really want to do (Paraphrasing).
     
  7. Ikindaknew

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    every bit of sensation that is not real V (for heteros) is detrimental to your sensations during PIV.
    Too tight, too ribbed, too intense, vibration, etc...all extremes that don't simulate the same way as real sex....that way, you desensitize yourself..then real sex is not enough and some peeps get delayed ejac.
     
  8. mnunez9

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    I guess everyone is different. I heard this one man who (like me) started really young and he said that it took him a minimum of nine months before he really started feeling better. The guy ended up doing it for years and is now totally normal so I am trying to follow his example.

    Its ok if you mess up. When we first learned to walk, we fell down a bunch of times and had not so pleasant experiences. Don't think about what your freinds are doing. For all you know, they might be experiencing negative symptoms just like you (they probably are.)

    I don't think giving up masturbation all together is necessary. It seems pretty healthy and normal to masturbate. I think the real goal should be to get porn out of the equation. Some guys can't acheive an erection without porn and see their sexual tastes get super warped because they are constantly trying to push back against desensitization.

    I think that once you have gone 9 months without porn or masturbation, you should be in a better position to masturbate without needing to look at porn, which would be a major accomplishment.
     
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  9. diddykong

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    It's not a scientific process. Everyone is different but I don't think 90 days is enough to cure death grip - I haven't noticed any increased sensitivity after 90 days. I've been flatlining harder since about day 70 than at any point before so I definitely don't feel rebooted yet.

    Moderate alcohol is a healthy and normal habit as well. We are recovering from an unhealthy masturbation habit though. To use the analogy, it's like the recovered alcoholic who thinks that they can resume a healthy drinking habit. I know some people report being able to go back to masturbation but for me I think the idea of resuming masturbation is a bit like playing with fire...
     
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  10. mnunez9

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    Good point. I guess it depends on what the person is addicted to and how they prefer to go about solving it. If addiction to masturbation is the problem, eliminating it all together seems like a logical reaction. At least for me, the issue revolving around my addiction is porn and my lack of self control. I am eliminating both porn and masturbation (all together) for my reboot because I am trying to recover my ability to resist the urge to use porn while masturbating. However, I think once I am off of my porn addiction, I will resume masturbating with normal fantasies (not associated with porn) since I consider masturbation to be normal and since I am not addicted to masturbation. However, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Your right- I should have been more specific.
     
  11. GG2002

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    I know this is an old post but as a partner of someone with PIED who also death grips let me add this advice. I think many men have no idea how strong their grip strength is. So of course they are not gripping too tight in their mind. But think of the strength of a 5'1 female versus a 6'3 man. My partner never realized he was gripping too tight until he asked me to squeeze as hard as I could and he still could not feel it. Just a thought.
     

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