Day 157 no porn. M/0 last night to just sensation..not so sure about total NOFAP

Maybe men got less tasks. A warm bed. Fresh ubereats delivery, no wolves or enemies. Words are spells hence spell(ing). If one says use this medication for hairloss but he masturbates. The medication will not work. Only when you stop the act. The growth of balding men at a young age but the dht levels are normal, there is no such thing as its normal

 

If you can m/o without edging, fantasy or P then you are probably fine. Id say once or twice a month isn't going to hurt you. What some people fail to realise is this process is different for everyone. Just because it is detrimental to one person does not mean it is for another. My advice would be to monitor how m/o makes you feel and decide if it is right for you.

m/o is mostly not problematic on its own, a lot of our problems arose when internet P became normal. There were probably outliers, but its clear that P has been responsible.

 

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?t...nt-views-of-masturbation.356730/#post-3733773

 

Im not wholely convinced on this theory. Again, a lot of our problems have come very recently with the explosion of internet P. I do not believe that masturbation is harmful on its own in moderation. Im much more focused on what the brain is doing in recovery, not the role of minerals and semen. You should check out some brain scans of P addict on google images, it shows clearly why most of us feel the way we do.

 

I pray to god that no brother will follow your words. Its already known that moderation still hit the last drops of the person. The harmless theory is an experiment.

Porn is an experiment, how many people said look at porn to see what you like, how sex works etc. Have you been lied!?!?

Many fapped for years in moderation and got bored and sick. Not one person could do that for so long. Masturbation on its own is addictive. Didnt you fapped enough? Didnt you have enough baldness and low self esteem? Still in the vicious rebooting cycle? There are brothers before porn and magazines who fapped in moderation and some fapped so much you would think you made an army of babies yet its all down the drain. All got the pain in the ass from it. Stick with your own harmless theory and dont let people ruin theirselves because of you.
Not to mention what masturbation on itself can touch things in the body that shouldnt be touched. Some receptors cannot be reached with just porn. Not to mention how many brothers with just masturbation reached neurosis. What kind of moderation and beneficial is this? Foreigners wanting no infertility, a brother talks about how he has the lowest sperm count because of masturbation in moderation.

 

to be honest im no really sure what you’re trying to say. What do you mean by some receptors can be touched by P? What receptors? what do you mean that masturbation in moderation hits the last drops of a person?

i didn’t experience any baldness so im not sure that applies to everyone or is even relevant to nofap. Im not in a “vicious cycle” but thanks for your concern.

all i would suggest is to see what is right for the individual, rather than saying x or y is bad. Its different for everyone, its not so easy as to say masturbation is simply bad across the board for everyone.

 

The fact that MO takes weeks for the person to feel better tells us that it really is bad. Haven't you guys experienced the bad feeling you feel right after MOing? You don't start feeling better until over a few days. It really is harmful for you, including the self esteem issues it causes. MOing makes you weak, anxious, and foggy. I've really felt it's effects while rebooting, I really know it inside out. It's just another problem that we don't want to get rid of.

 

I relapsed a year without porn. Always the same hassle and pain. I got full benefits now from stopping it. Better eye contact and so on. The withdrawals tells me how horrific Ive been towards myself. Brothers here never reached a full year and now want to look at masturbation. Didnt the brothers masturbated enough here? It seems like some people are trolling.

 

again, just because it is bad for one person does not mean its bad for another. 99% of the population can MO without issues or problems, its the addicted ones who suffer. There are many who have gone on after rebooting to successful masturbation without P or fantasy. In the end you have to make that decision on your own.

 

We must ignore those people.
They choose to continue suffering masterbating 3 times a week because its "healthy"
Let them suffer more and take life less seriously.
While we both find succes and balance. Others are jealous. Dont ever listen to them, they told us porn helps with sex performance and how it works, to see what you like all lies!!!!!!
They said masturbation so healthy all lies!!! My grandpa who reached age of 102 never did this! Always eat good exercise never diseases or prostate cancer! His wife and his parents never did this foolish act as well never got badly sick neurologically and always above age of 80. Never baldness never dysfunctions!
Follow our parents!. Smartphone is "smart" use it smart and not to use it for drugs! And mainstream media lies! The foreigners want us dead. My newspaper never tell us such harmful acts and lies about media!!!!!! Only the internet.

 

Your parents never had high speed internet P. What a wonder they never had these problems. But did they masturbate? highly likely.