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Celibacy as a tool for confidence

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by thebrahmachari, Apr 6, 2016.

  1. thebrahmachari

    thebrahmachari Fapstronaut

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    I'm almost 22 and have never gotten laid. I was one of those late bloomer kids who didn't develop as fast as the others. Think matthew lewis / neville longbottom. As a result i got rejected by a lot of girls on grounds of being too young looking. But the older I get I'm thinking of using the self loathing, hatred, and other aggressive feelings that this has generated to my advantage.

    Think about it. If I don't fap ever, have no sex, don't watch porn, etc., basically a lot of that energy is going to become built up inside and me and I am going to have no choice but to become confident and get rid of a lot of petty shit that has been bouncing around in my late adolescence for far too long. I can already feel it happening. In a way I want to become a scary, frightening looking man or one who is the image of raw hardened masculinity, as a backlash and as revenge for years of being tormented as being a weaker, less masculine guy.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    And just think, while all your contemporaries start to age, your youthful looks will be coming to fore as the most attractive guy who more girls will now want. Hence, it's great that your confidence and reclaimed sense of masculinity is coming to fore at this same time as well - you are soon to be a great catch by some lucky and great girl. Enjoy life, and definitely keep yourself for that first and lifetime love to come, and become more ready, too, by ridding yourself now of any PMO destructiveness, so as not to bring such sordid addiction into that upcoming relationship. And, don't jump into a raw, hardened, brute masculinity, as you state, in revenge of your past. Such is an animal and not a true man, as you are indeed on the inside and have always been. You'll have a bright future ahead of you.
     
  3. thebrahmachari

    thebrahmachari Fapstronaut

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    PMO destructiveness is definitely the first thing I rid myself of. I did a 168 day streak before and during that time i had not been that confident ever in my life. Sadly i got discouraged and blew the streak, but I am on the wagon again and have no intention of stopping.

    I also have no intention of becoming a hardened man in the sense that I am insensitive. I am deeply sensitive and always will be, it's just that I believe that i also need to be very strong in order to complement this sensitivity. A man who is believable and might seem to be hardened and callous on the outside, but who really has a massive heart and can treat a woman with sensitivity and love and respect. That is what I wish to strive for.
     
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  4. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    Believe me, "hardness" and "callousness" have no true part in your future happiness or manliness. It's like the lies many girls receive growing up of what a true woman should be, based on all the glamour magazines and the life of models and actresses and Barbie doll images shoved down their throats - often far from true femininity and womanhood. Many men have porn shoved down their throats as well of what true manhood is, and distorted images elsewhere from society - but they are all lies. You may need to learn that the hard way, wasting a lot of time and redoubling back 10 or 20 years down the road to pursue true manliness thereafter. Or, you can do it right now. Best wishes - I hope it all works out for you.
     
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  5. thebrahmachari

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    But I also think men who source their confidence from things like muscle, physical strength, etc have already started to lose the internal confidence. There is a quote attributed to Gandhi somewhere along these lines. It has to be purely spiritual, that's the reason I meditate and do yoga instead of lifting iron. PMO damaged the confidence which should have been there from the beginning but I am putting in effort now to heal.
     
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  6. Red Eagle

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    I was/am in the same boat as you. Always looked younger than my age. If I'd shave my beard I'd probably look like 16. Today a 17 year old guy asked me how old I am and was astonished when I said 22. He thought I was 18/19 at most. But all the men in my family especially on my mothers side tend to look younger then there age. My uncles are in their late 50s early 60s and could easily pass as mid 40s. So in the long run the advantage is probably on our side.
    It's quite stupid that we put so much emphasis on age. It's just a number that doesn't really say a lot about the person. Some people age fast/slower. So if you are 18 but look like 15 you're pretty fucked when you're among others who're 18 years old.
     
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  7. shekhar

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    Get rid of porn habit then you can find out who you are my friend?
     
  8. thebrahmachari

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    In the long run yes the advantage is on my side,but it does suck for now. I will admit that part of the reason the jerking off habit has stuck around so long for me is out of hopelessness, I figured that since I looked 15 I wouldn't get laid anyway. I'd tell a girl I liked her, she'd tell me she liked me as a friend, and I'd go to bed that night and jerk off because fuck it, what's the point.

    One of the biggest relevant things that has depressed me lately I watched in collegehumor video. It talked about "second puberty" or basically the phase in which men fully resemble men, including beards and whatnot. But what it said is that by that time men's sexual peak is over and they are already starting to decline. Basically your sexual peak is earlier in life than women's, when your chances of getting laid are at an all time low. It makes me very hopeless if that is true.

    I'm just starting yet another streak now though, and I want to live up to my username which is a one of the highest forms of spiritual paths. In my 168 day streak I did things like meditation and fasting and they really helped with the sexual desire and with getting my head together.

    I watched the video in your sig btw and it made me rethink a lot of things. I too want to start seeking fulfillment instead of pleasure and it really affects a lot of choices that you make, from what you spend your time doing to what you eat to how you interact with others.
     
  9. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    Yes, and men that incessantly wax their cars as an outdoor passion are really waxing their penises - it's a masturbation complex all over again.
     
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  10. thebrahmachari

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    That's the reason I don't work out and try to get some "ideal" body. I just settle for skinny as hell, reason being if I am trying to make my body ideal and dedicating so much time to it, I am really masturbating my ego. I know a 20 year old guy who is always working out because he says girls he sleeps with appreciate his body. But it's ego masturbation. He may be sleeping with girls instead of jerking off but still he needs to satisfy the ego urge. If my greatest appeal is something any other guy can get with a gym membership, I'm missing the boat I think.

    No offense to those who work out though. I believe in exercise for health, not trying to reach an ideal like a bodybuilder. That's why I run, good for the heart.
     
  11. JoeinUSA

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    Right, and such body builder neither loves himself in a healthy way (as he is needy in others noticing and loving him) nor does he really love the girls he's with (they are there for his ego, not in and for themselves), which is a codependence. that is why it's better to be a true man with self-esteem who can love freely for the other and receive love freely - and nothing out of neediness and codependence. Those are the relationships that will work out, which I see you have the capacity for. Yes, and no offence to those working out for the right reasons.
     
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  12. thebrahmachari

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    I will say that there's a slow confidence that's working its way into myself gradually over time, regardless of how long it has been since I fapped although fapping is definitely not something I wish to continue doing. If one, as a guy, can suffer through adolescence, puberty, and all of that bullshit, there is a certain confidence that is gained by the end of it. Also being independent and supporting myself (which is a rarity at my age, for some young people) does wonders for my confidence. Strictly speaking, I provide for myself, here I am a man.
     
  13. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    And, self-confidence and self-doubts are all natural; plus, you are still young, in the psychological stage of identity formation still, followed by needs for intimacy. Hence, all this stuff is bound be jumbled up in a whimsical mess in the late teens and early twenties, even in the best of conditions sometimes. So, it's not a reflection on you - it's a part of life and growing through your present stages of psychological development (per Erik Erikson, for instance).
     
  14. thebrahmachari

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    And maybe vigorous, mindless and frustrated masturbation for awhile was a necessary part of it, something that I had to go though for awhile and to the point that I came to a realization. But the conclusion that I'm coming to is that I'm old enough to at least take myself more seriously, stop feeling sorry for myself and thinking like a boy.
     
  15. Jonny123

    Jonny123 Fapstronaut

    Good man. Be done with masturbation. Forever! Promise yourself that.
     

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