Not all drugs are addictive. They have the potential to be addictive, just like anything else. For it to be addictive, lsd would have to have done addictive chemicals within it. It would have to have cases of people being addicted to it, which it has none. Not all drugs are dangerous if taken in the right amounts. There's zero (very very low) deaths related to lsd, same with shrooms. There were some documented deaths but these were unrelated to the drug itself (tripping balls and walking off a cliff camping, accidently starting a fire, etc). Honestly, perhaps do some actual research on the matter. Lsd and shrooms are the safest drugs on the market including prescriptions, except marijuana.
Depends on the dose. I don´t disagree with you that if you take a hardcore dose intention probably is not going to matter a lot. But in the majority of people who will take a low-normal-moderate high dose, the intention does A LOT. I´m tired of listening to people that have tripped and doesn´t share not a little of opinion with me regarding that psychedelics can be useful for instrocpetion, treating addiction, spiritual insights etc... They laugh about it. Why? Because most of them have taken them in parties and in purely recreational situations. Its a little more o less with MDMA, which is the party drug number 1 but at the same time with the proper set and setting can be used to treat PTSD...
Drugs are always going to be a contentious issue sparking debate. One of the things i hate most about drugs is when people pressure you into taking them, that and the black market which funds other crime (if we are talking about more nefarious kinds like class a's) I've heard that there are trials going on or have been undertaken with regards to using MDMA to treat depression. There is a benefit to allowing a therepeutic use by a trained health care professional if the studies show positive results on the patients, firstly it's in a controlled setting and secondly you are getting support from well meaning people and thirdly the dose will be measured and also it will be a grade of drug in its purest and safest form. For me personally i don't know if i would opt for a therpeutic course of LSD or MDMA if it was available due to my own history of addiction and i think that kind of therapy is for people who are at the worst end of the spectrum when everything else has failed to yield a result. There is a danger of people who come off the therepeutic trial turning to street deals if they somehow become dependent on it. Such as with the Fentanyl and heroin epidemic in the USA, patients were given morphine prescribed by their doctors to treat things like chronic back pain and because there was no after care support for when the subscription run out, normal every day hard working people found themselves vying to get hold of heroin. It's a tragedy which i think big pharma don't want to take responsibility for.
However, there are still multiple reasons why LSD is worse than porn: 1. LSD costs money in all circumstances ($5-$20), whereas there are free pornography websites. 2. LSD affects for 8-12 hours, whereas masturbation usually lasts under a hour (and you penis cells begin to die due to lack of oxygen when an erection lasts more than about 4 hours) 3. LSD is illegal in most, if not all countries, whereas porn is legal in most countries. 4. LSD induce bunch of adverse physical and psychological effects, such as, hallucinations (and I believe these lasts up to 12 hours), extreme body temperatures, wanting to harm others and wanting to commit suicide. Yes, I was wrong that LSD is addictive, however, when compared to porn, LSD is still much more worse when you look at the big picture. (Note: Do correct me if I'm wrong in my points, thank you!)
I have taken LSD multiple times and I have never paid for it. Most of the people I've met within the psychedelic community are extremely generous people who are happy to share what they have. Doubtless, there are people who charge for LSD, but it's just not true to say that it costs money in all circumstances. I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. The duration of the effect of LSD vs. the duration of a typical masturbation session is not a good way to determine which is more damaging than the other. I think the damage done depends heavily on dosage and frequency of usage. If you take LSD one time in a controlled setting with a known dosage and with the intention of treating a mental health issue, that is probably going to be far less damaging (if damaging at all) than decades of regular porn usage. I stated this in an earlier comment, but legality is not always a good indication of morality. For example, there was a period in US history where women were not allowed to vote and where it was legal to own a slave. Obviously, women ought to be allowed to vote for ethical reasons and slavery is obviously morally wrong, so it looks like the law gets things wrong from time to time. LSD is illegal in most countries, sure, but maybe we're wrong about that. I agree that, because it is illegal, one has to be more cautious about using LSD than they are about using porn. However, that's not because of the way LSD is, but rather because of the society we live in. At certain dosages, you will still have a psychedelic experience without hallucinations. Some people never experience hallucinations from LSD no matter how many times they take it. Also, if there are hallucinations, there's no way they last up to 12 hours. LSD has an "experience curve", if you will. It starts out at zero (corresponding to no perceptible sensations) when you ingest the drug, builds up quickly for about a half hour until you reach 100 (corresponding to the most intensely perceptible sensations), things remain up there for about an hour to two hours and then start to steadily decline back down to zero for about 9-10 hours. In the right setting, the last few hours of an LSD experience are extremely easy to deal with. If you saw someone who was in the middle of the last few hours of an LSD experience, you might not even be able to tell that they had taken it. This one is accurate. LSD does affect the way blood flows in your body and it can certainly alter your body temperature. Having said that, I've never heard of someone developing a fever because they took LSD... This one is not accurate. As I said, I have taken LSD multiple times, and I've never wanted to harm myself or anyone else after taking it. I've also been around many people who have taken it, and I've never seen someone have a desire to harm themselves or someone else as a result of taking LSD. I know this is anecdotal evidence, but my point is that LSD doesn't induce these sorts of thoughts or feelings. I think that if someone ends up wanting to harm themselves or others while under the influence of LSD, they probably had a predisposition for mental health issues before taking the drug. No, it's not. Things are not that black and white. It's so much more complicated than comparing LSD to porn on a few basic arbitrary criteria. Everyone who uses LSD has a different experience, and everyone who uses porn has a different experience. For some people (chronic users especially), porn is really damaging. For others (especially people who rarely view porn), it's relatively harmless (though it enforces unhealthy brain chemistry in all usages, even if only subtly). For some people (people with mental health issues or predispositions for mental health issues), LSD can be really damaging. For others (like me), it's relatively harmless. It's not clear at all clear whether one is worse than the other. I think the more accurate statement is that both LSD and porn have the potential to be abused.
It doesn´t. Mos What big picture, exactly? Because definetely the one who has given Science and the magazine of medical pharmacology is that in one metastudy from over 50 years there is no record in over 139000 persons in which 39000 of this ones have consumed psychedelics, n Lol I was going to reply her but he was just so far away from the truth in each statement that I took it as impossible
Hmm. Well, your points are reasonable, although I'm sure (back to the original point) that if (and only if) further tests conducted really prove that LSD is effective in countering addiction (whether alcoholism as mentioned in the video or PMO here), it should only be used when a) authorized by a trained doctor and in a vincinty of one (to prevent possible medical emergencies incurred from either hallucinations or the physical harms/side effects of LSD) b) in limited and regulated use and c) is legal medically. What and what and what?
Sorry , I was in my phone and fucked up the text LOL I can´t find the news article in which I found the info but it basically said that Science has proven that there is no relationship between mental illness and the use of psychedelic drugs. At all. Except like as it has been said, if you have genetic predisposition to mental illneses like bipolar, squizofrenia etc psychedelics can indeed trigger the illness (but also, it could trigger it any traumatic or intense event like car accident, etc). Also, you can look at the charts where shrooms and LSD are placed at the lowest bottom regarding physical harm and addiction versus almost all the rest of the drugs: https://static.scientificamerican.com/blogs/assets/File/Nutt_chart.png By the way, just found something interesting regarding this topic: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-link-found-between-psychedelics-and-psychosis1/ pd: And Indeed it talks about the study of Journal of Pharmacology I was talking about: "The second of the new two studies, also published in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, looked at 190,000 NSDUH respondents from 2008 to 2012. It also found that the classic psychedelics were not associated with adverse mental-health outcomes. In addition, it found that people who had used LSD and psilocybin had lower lifetime rates of suicidal thoughts and attempts."
Yeah, I agree with you on this. Maybe one day we'll live in a world where it's actually legal for medical scientists to do some of the tests you're talking about in a safe and controlled environment, but I won't hold my breath for that.
