Are PSUB's a relapse?

They are for me.

 

P and P-subs play the same role in the mind and provide the same dopamine hit. They are both artificial sexual stimulation. By definition, a P-sub merely stands in for P. Replacing P with P-subs is not recovery; rather, it is delaying recovery. That is why I have updated my counter as described in my signature.

 

It depends on how long you watch them and what kind of a content it is. Perhaps looking at a single bikini model picture isn't considered a relapse, but I'd avoid anything that's even close to PMO as turning to p-subs will turn into a relapse sooner or later. Essentially you're giving your mind a permission to watch porn.

 

Stop viewing P-subs completely for 90 days, then look at a bikini model. You will feel that same palpable thrill that you used to feel with P. It is not a difference of kind, but only of degree.