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Advice on PIED

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by BumbleTheBee, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. BumbleTheBee

    BumbleTheBee Fapstronaut

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    Hi, M24
    I'm describing some symptoms and looking for advice on PIED.

    I've been masturbating since age of 11, not always to porn. I would say that I have been regularly masturbating to porn since last 4-5 years - 4 times a week. I'm not sexually active.

    I'm not addicted to porn - as in I don't crave it too much. I can go without it for days. I have not watched it since 10th oct 2018 and I'm not having any urge to get back to it. I used to watch vanilla porn only, nothing serious. Would cum within 10-15 minute. Also I suspect that I developed DEATH GRIP as my penis would be in pain for sometime after I masturbated.

    I recently had sex (my first time) with a girl but had problem getting it fully erect. I only reached 75% erection. This happened twice with the same girl. And I was not under any pressure and did not have any performance anxiety. I was unable to penetrate her initially. Even when I did penetrate her with a partial erection, I did not feel anything. It was like I had no sensation on my penis, I could not even tell if i'm inside her.

    I also noticed that I don't enjoy kissing and foreplay. I do not get full erect/partially erect while I'm kissing. At first I thought that this is because I'm not attracted to the girl but this has happened with all the girls I've kissed.

    I'm abstaining from masturbation since 12th October 2018 and had sex last time on 17th oct. I do have morning wood but I have low libido since then. I don't get horny and don't get random boners. I'm not craving any sex since the day I've stopped watching porn and masturbating.

    I usually do push ups at home and go for walk atleast once a day. I can manage to eat healthy.

    I learned about PIED on youtube and I think I have it. Please advice me on how to proceed from here now.

    According to my symptoms, how much time would it take to cure my PIED and how will I know that it has been cured ?
     
  2. BetterThanYou321

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    First off, you need to figure out - are you brainwashed by porn or have you simply desensitised your penis or both?

    By brainwashed by porn I mean what we all know is true - porn has some pretty unrealistic scenarios and pretty unrealistic women so it's very easy for a person to get used to that level of stimulation. Which is much lower in real life sex. And that is where the conflict happens for people - they try to have sex and are amazed it feels different than when they're jerking off. But that's actually very obvious come to think of it. You have this idea in your head, based on porn, about how things happen and then have to realise that in real life there's a lot more to it - you have a living breathing person next to you which is so completely different than the introverted action of sitting alone in a room with your computer masturbating. And when your brain is wired to expect that, and it gets the real person, you suddenly don't know what to do. If that's the case, then yes I think a reboot for 1/2/3 months should help. But this only works if during that time you change your mentality and start thinking of how 'real sex' is and how that is what you ultimately want to experience. Playing only real scenarios in your head and reprogramming your brain to crave that instead of anything porn related.

    If the first part doesn't ring a bell for you, then I guess it might be desensitisation. Worry not, because this is only a physical thing, meaning it's easier to fix compared to rewiring your brain and changing your mentality. Here, when I say desensitisation I mean the damage you cause to yourself from bad masturbatory habits. That is, masturbating in a way that's very different than the type of stimulation you get during sex. The solution here would be to completely change the way you masturbate - think of what happens and how it feels during sex and try to reapply that alone to the best of your abilities. At first it's going to feel so strange and non-erotic, you won't be able to get hard, let alone climax, but you should be persistent and keep on doing it. Eventually, because this is your only way of stimulation, you will rewire to like it and will begin embracing it. Therefore, since you try to keep it as close to what a girl is doing to you during sex as possible, when you actually have sex you'll get pretty much the same thing as what you're now used to and you should be able to perform.
     
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  3. BumbleTheBee

    BumbleTheBee Fapstronaut

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    Hi. Thanks for the reply.
    I'm pretty sure I am not brain washed by porn. I say that because I only used to watch homemade porn videos and mostly other videos did not interest me a lot.

    I've stopped masturbating for 10-12 days a few times earlier as well. But I never flatlined like I am experiencing right now. I used to have wet dreams if I did not masturbate for more than a week, but not this time.

    Just to be on a safer side, is following a 3 months reboot good idea in my case ?
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2018
  4. BetterThanYou321

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    Usually the reboot goes like this: first 2 weeks you feel good as you're still very motivated for what you are doing. Then weeks 2-6 are a flatline for most people. It's like sex and everything sexual stops existing. This is again a sign of progress and shouldn't be feared. After week 6 is when you begin to feel arousal again and renew sensitivity.

    For a reboot plan, I would suggest:
    - First month is full hard mode - no P, no M, no O.
    - Second month is again no P and no M, but you should start trying to fool around with girls. During this month you probably still won't get erections, but it's very important to do this, as it retrains your neural bonds to enjoy kissing, hugging, closeness etc. If you don't do this, you won't be cured even if you go for 1 year hard mode, because you're essentially wiping out your bad habits/vision about sex. BUT, it's very important as you do that to also try to have sex, because that experience is what will replace your current bad neural pathways with new 'good' ones - ones that enjoy the stimulus of kissing, fooling around, generally having another person be intimate with you.
    - Third month is again no P and no M, but you'll probably start to experience full-on erections here. You probably still won't be cured - there'll be times when you can't, or when you have PE or can't O at all. But that's not to worry - at least you'll be doing a lot better.

    Afterwards you should be cured - to keep the results permanent, I would suggest you never do P again, and M - maybe, but very rarely and in the way I described in my previous post.
     
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  5. BumbleTheBee

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    Thanks. This is very helpful
     

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